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Attributes | |
ACN | 399065 |
Time | |
Date | 199802 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 399065 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were approaching ord on flight from dtw. The WX was MVFR to the best of my recollection. There were rain showers at the airport and the surfaces were wet. Approach had been notified that we would be unable to accept a lahso clearance if lahso were on the ATIS. At the OM we contacted ord tower and were cleared to land on runway 14R to hold short of runway 9R. We declined the lahso and were almost immediately issued a go around straight ahead climb to 4000 ft. Then we were vectored for an ILS approach to runway 9R. On approach to runway 9R we experienced unacceptable changes in airspeed below 500 ft AGL and immediately initiated a go around. We were then vectored for an ILS approach to runway 22R and landed without incident. FYI, I routinely decline lahso clrncs because of the hazardous nature of the clearance. I have had what in my view have been at least 2 punitive gars assigned at ord in the last several months. These operations are inherently unsafe. If it is going to take shredded aluminum and body parts on the runways to stop it, I can assure you that I will not be part of it. Fix the problem -- now. I do not like to say I told you so, but I take good notes, and I will if it becomes necessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 ACFT ARRIVING AT ARPT HEARS ATIS RPTING WET RWY WHICH PRECLUDES LAHSO WITH RPTR'S ACR. RPTR CAPT ADVISES APCH CTLR UNABLE LAHSO, BUT WHEN TWR TELLS RPTR TO LAHSO, HE DECLINES. TWR GIVES RPTR ACFT GAR.
Narrative: WE WERE APCHING ORD ON FLT FROM DTW. THE WX WAS MVFR TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION. THERE WERE RAIN SHOWERS AT THE ARPT AND THE SURFACES WERE WET. APCH HAD BEEN NOTIFIED THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO ACCEPT A LAHSO CLRNC IF LAHSO WERE ON THE ATIS. AT THE OM WE CONTACTED ORD TWR AND WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 14R TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 9R. WE DECLINED THE LAHSO AND WERE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY ISSUED A GAR STRAIGHT AHEAD CLB TO 4000 FT. THEN WE WERE VECTORED FOR AN ILS APCH TO RWY 9R. ON APCH TO RWY 9R WE EXPERIENCED UNACCEPTABLE CHANGES IN AIRSPD BELOW 500 FT AGL AND IMMEDIATELY INITIATED A GAR. WE WERE THEN VECTORED FOR AN ILS APCH TO RWY 22R AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. FYI, I ROUTINELY DECLINE LAHSO CLRNCS BECAUSE OF THE HAZARDOUS NATURE OF THE CLRNC. I HAVE HAD WHAT IN MY VIEW HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 2 PUNITIVE GARS ASSIGNED AT ORD IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. THESE OPS ARE INHERENTLY UNSAFE. IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE SHREDDED ALUMINUM AND BODY PARTS ON THE RWYS TO STOP IT, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL NOT BE PART OF IT. FIX THE PROB -- NOW. I DO NOT LIKE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, BUT I TAKE GOOD NOTES, AND I WILL IF IT BECOMES NECESSARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.