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Attributes | |
ACN | 401590 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : stl tower : ind |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 401590 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cleared for a visual approach at 10 mi (to runway 30L stl). Approach was routine and stabilized. Reference speed was 136 KTS. Landing weight approximately 282000 pounds. Captain was flying. At 500 ft, I called airspeed and descent rate (142 KTS 750 FPM), then 100 ft. The computer called 50 ft, 30 ft. Right after the 30 ft call at approximately 20 ft the captain pulled throttles to idle. The runway looked slightly wet so I was expecting a grease job. Wind was 260 degrees at 9 KTS. We floated just a bit, but attitude did not look abnormal. Touchdown felt normal. Immediately after touchdown, I looked at the airspeed. I was just above 120 KTS. As we turned off, a flight attendant reported a loud scraping noise after touchdown that stopped when we went into reverse. We told her we would check it out at the gate. Taxi was normal to parking. Reported scraping noise to mechanic and asked him to check it out. Captain walked back under the airplane to check the gear and tail skid and did not see anything unusual. Later inspection by mechanic revealed right galley drain mast was damaged, as well as the tail skid. Checking 'tail strike' attitude revealed it would occur at 8 degrees pitch at 270000 pounds. A landing which compressed the struts and higher weight could theoretically, at lower pitch angle for tail contact. Pilots flying B767-300 aircraft need to be (made) aware of the relatively low pitch attitude for possible tail strike. Perhaps the reference speed needs to be raised 3-5 KTS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CAPT HAS TAIL STRIKE ON LNDG. MINOR DAMAGE TO TAIL SKID AND WATER DRAIN MAST.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH AT 10 MI (TO RWY 30L STL). APCH WAS ROUTINE AND STABILIZED. REF SPD WAS 136 KTS. LNDG WT APPROX 282000 LBS. CAPT WAS FLYING. AT 500 FT, I CALLED AIRSPD AND DSCNT RATE (142 KTS 750 FPM), THEN 100 FT. THE COMPUTER CALLED 50 FT, 30 FT. RIGHT AFTER THE 30 FT CALL AT APPROX 20 FT THE CAPT PULLED THROTTLES TO IDLE. THE RWY LOOKED SLIGHTLY WET SO I WAS EXPECTING A GREASE JOB. WIND WAS 260 DEGS AT 9 KTS. WE FLOATED JUST A BIT, BUT ATTITUDE DID NOT LOOK ABNORMAL. TOUCHDOWN FELT NORMAL. IMMEDIATELY AFTER TOUCHDOWN, I LOOKED AT THE AIRSPD. I WAS JUST ABOVE 120 KTS. AS WE TURNED OFF, A FLT ATTENDANT RPTED A LOUD SCRAPING NOISE AFTER TOUCHDOWN THAT STOPPED WHEN WE WENT INTO REVERSE. WE TOLD HER WE WOULD CHK IT OUT AT THE GATE. TAXI WAS NORMAL TO PARKING. RPTED SCRAPING NOISE TO MECH AND ASKED HIM TO CHK IT OUT. CAPT WALKED BACK UNDER THE AIRPLANE TO CHK THE GEAR AND TAIL SKID AND DID NOT SEE ANYTHING UNUSUAL. LATER INSPECTION BY MECH REVEALED R GALLEY DRAIN MAST WAS DAMAGED, AS WELL AS THE TAIL SKID. CHKING 'TAIL STRIKE' ATTITUDE REVEALED IT WOULD OCCUR AT 8 DEGS PITCH AT 270000 LBS. A LNDG WHICH COMPRESSED THE STRUTS AND HIGHER WT COULD THEORETICALLY, AT LOWER PITCH ANGLE FOR TAIL CONTACT. PLTS FLYING B767-300 ACFT NEED TO BE (MADE) AWARE OF THE RELATIVELY LOW PITCH ATTITUDE FOR POSSIBLE TAIL STRIKE. PERHAPS THE REF SPD NEEDS TO BE RAISED 3-5 KTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.