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C210 aircraft in cruise on training flight in instrument conditions was cleared direct to a VOR. Reporter instructor pilot told the PF trainee to set the VOR on his radio and navigation by that, but, partly due to WX conditions, the trainee became disoriented and got off heading enough that controller questioned their deviation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 402320 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ccr |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : suu |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 402320 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In actual IMC travis approach advised my student and I to proceed direct to the ccr VOR and expect vectors per the VOR approach. We came to a dogleg on the airway at the same time we acknowledged the request. It was a short distance to the VOR so I advised my student to use his #2 VOR for direct ccr and set his HSI for the final approach course. All this messing with radios and sudden downdrafts and ice all over the windscreen disoriented the student and he never got his heading bug and the airplane set to fly direct ccr. We were easily 30-40 degrees off course. The controller asked if we had a problem and we said it had been rough controling the aircraft, but we were correcting our course even then. I should have taken over the minute I saw the student was confused, but wanted him to sort this out himself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C210 ACFT IN CRUISE ON TRAINING FLT IN INST CONDITIONS WAS CLRED DIRECT TO A VOR. RPTR INSTRUCTOR PLT TOLD THE PF TRAINEE TO SET THE VOR ON HIS RADIO AND NAV BY THAT, BUT, PARTLY DUE TO WX CONDITIONS, THE TRAINEE BECAME DISORIENTED AND GOT OFF HDG ENOUGH THAT CTLR QUESTIONED THEIR DEV.
Narrative: IN ACTUAL IMC TRAVIS APCH ADVISED MY STUDENT AND I TO PROCEED DIRECT TO THE CCR VOR AND EXPECT VECTORS PER THE VOR APCH. WE CAME TO A DOGLEG ON THE AIRWAY AT THE SAME TIME WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE REQUEST. IT WAS A SHORT DISTANCE TO THE VOR SO I ADVISED MY STUDENT TO USE HIS #2 VOR FOR DIRECT CCR AND SET HIS HSI FOR THE FINAL APCH COURSE. ALL THIS MESSING WITH RADIOS AND SUDDEN DOWNDRAFTS AND ICE ALL OVER THE WINDSCREEN DISORIENTED THE STUDENT AND HE NEVER GOT HIS HDG BUG AND THE AIRPLANE SET TO FLY DIRECT CCR. WE WERE EASILY 30-40 DEGS OFF COURSE. THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD A PROB AND WE SAID IT HAD BEEN ROUGH CTLING THE ACFT, BUT WE WERE CORRECTING OUR COURSE EVEN THEN. I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN OVER THE MINUTE I SAW THE STUDENT WAS CONFUSED, BUT WANTED HIM TO SORT THIS OUT HIMSELF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.