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SF340 altitude bust. Crew is issued a rapid confusing clearance by ARTCC radar controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 402370 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tower : apa |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 402370 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1980 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 401891 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing out of dtw we requested 14000 ft as a final direct azo. ZOB gave us a strange clearance that I requested to repeat. When he did, I read it back and he said ok that is it. I thought we were cleared to 14000 ft and when crossing harwl (37 DME dtw/pal 2 SID) direct to azo. Climbing out of 12500 ft, center asked us our altitude. He said we were cleared to 11000 ft, when crossing harwl, cleared to 14000 ft direct azo. There were no conflicts. We apologized to the center, he said no problem and we continued on our flight with no further problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SF340 ALT BUST. CREW IS ISSUED A RAPID CONFUSING CLRNC BY ARTCC RADAR CTLR.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF DTW WE REQUESTED 14000 FT AS A FINAL DIRECT AZO. ZOB GAVE US A STRANGE CLRNC THAT I REQUESTED TO REPEAT. WHEN HE DID, I READ IT BACK AND HE SAID OK THAT IS IT. I THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED TO 14000 FT AND WHEN XING HARWL (37 DME DTW/PAL 2 SID) DIRECT TO AZO. CLBING OUT OF 12500 FT, CTR ASKED US OUR ALT. HE SAID WE WERE CLRED TO 11000 FT, WHEN XING HARWL, CLRED TO 14000 FT DIRECT AZO. THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS. WE APOLOGIZED TO THE CTR, HE SAID NO PROB AND WE CONTINUED ON OUR FLT WITH NO FURTHER PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.