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C150 pilot attempts to obtain IFR clearance while on the ground at pie. He is unable to do so. After takeoff in VMC conditions he attempts to get his IFR clearance from tpa departure. He enters the tpa TCA class B prior to obtaining clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 402600 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tpa |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | controller non radar : 20 controller radar : 4 flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 402600 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited penetrated airspace other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We filed IFR from pie to sfb. We tried to pick up our clearance on the ground. We ended up trying to pick it up in the air. We picked a heading VFR to sfb (60 degrees) while trying to talk to tampa departure, and ended up in tampa airspace. Tampa approach told us we were in their airspace and had us turn west.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C150 PLT ATTEMPTS TO OBTAIN IFR CLRNC WHILE ON THE GND AT PIE. HE IS UNABLE TO DO SO. AFTER TKOF IN VMC CONDITIONS HE ATTEMPTS TO GET HIS IFR CLRNC FROM TPA DEP. HE ENTERS THE TPA TCA CLASS B PRIOR TO OBTAINING CLRNC.
Narrative: WE FILED IFR FROM PIE TO SFB. WE TRIED TO PICK UP OUR CLRNC ON THE GND. WE ENDED UP TRYING TO PICK IT UP IN THE AIR. WE PICKED A HDG VFR TO SFB (60 DEGS) WHILE TRYING TO TALK TO TAMPA DEP, AND ENDED UP IN TAMPA AIRSPACE. TAMPA APCH TOLD US WE WERE IN THEIR AIRSPACE AND HAD US TURN W.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.