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Attributes | |
ACN | 403662 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gai |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 403662 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on downwind at 800 ft AGL, pilot being checked observed an aircraft over the landing numbers (runway 14), crossing from our left to right. Pilot questioned the crossing aircraft as to what they were doing. The crossing aircraft then started a climb to evade us and landed behind us. Comment: there seems to be a new pattern entry technique of crossing at midfield, pattern altitude, and then turning downwind. Some folks seem to like to cut corners and this aircraft treated midfield as over the numbers. At least a crosswind entry gives a greater margin for those so inclined to cut corners. No pattern entry is without certain concerns but I don't believe after 40 yrs of flying that this is a good one.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH SPI ON PATTERN ENTRY HAS NMAC WITH SECOND ACFT MAKING AN IMPROPER PATTERN ENTRY.
Narrative: WHILE ON DOWNWIND AT 800 FT AGL, PLT BEING CHKED OBSERVED AN ACFT OVER THE LNDG NUMBERS (RWY 14), XING FROM OUR L TO R. PLT QUESTIONED THE XING ACFT AS TO WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THE XING ACFT THEN STARTED A CLB TO EVADE US AND LANDED BEHIND US. COMMENT: THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEW PATTERN ENTRY TECHNIQUE OF XING AT MIDFIELD, PATTERN ALT, AND THEN TURNING DOWNWIND. SOME FOLKS SEEM TO LIKE TO CUT CORNERS AND THIS ACFT TREATED MIDFIELD AS OVER THE NUMBERS. AT LEAST A XWIND ENTRY GIVES A GREATER MARGIN FOR THOSE SO INCLINED TO CUT CORNERS. NO PATTERN ENTRY IS WITHOUT CERTAIN CONCERNS BUT I DON'T BELIEVE AFTER 40 YRS OF FLYING THAT THIS IS A GOOD ONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.