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When flight crew of an air carrier turboprop reported in after takeoff from an uncontrolled airport, ARTCC radar controller advised that they had exceeded their clearance void time. The flight crew believed that they took off at void time which was within legal limits.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 403820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199805 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gup |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 256 flight time total : 2660 flight time type : 2404 |
| ASRS Report | 403820 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed gup airport at our void time of XX15 local. Made 3 attempts to contact ZAB. By time we made contact we were past the VOR through 10000 ft MSL. Center advised we were past our void time. It was XX20 by the time we were in contact with ATC. The controller doubted that we had departed by XX15. According to my watch and the first officer, we had not violated our void time. When the controller handed us off to the next controller, I asked if any action needed to be taken. He said no, but doubted our story. Once again, we departed at XX15 at our void time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHEN FLC OF AN ACR TURBOPROP RPTED IN AFTER TKOF FROM AN UNCTLED ARPT, ARTCC RADAR CTLR ADVISED THAT THEY HAD EXCEEDED THEIR CLRNC VOID TIME. THE FLC BELIEVED THAT THEY TOOK OFF AT VOID TIME WHICH WAS WITHIN LEGAL LIMITS.
Narrative: DEPARTED GUP ARPT AT OUR VOID TIME OF XX15 LCL. MADE 3 ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT ZAB. BY TIME WE MADE CONTACT WE WERE PAST THE VOR THROUGH 10000 FT MSL. CTR ADVISED WE WERE PAST OUR VOID TIME. IT WAS XX20 BY THE TIME WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH ATC. THE CTLR DOUBTED THAT WE HAD DEPARTED BY XX15. ACCORDING TO MY WATCH AND THE FO, WE HAD NOT VIOLATED OUR VOID TIME. WHEN THE CTLR HANDED US OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR, I ASKED IF ANY ACTION NEEDED TO BE TAKEN. HE SAID NO, BUT DOUBTED OUR STORY. ONCE AGAIN, WE DEPARTED AT XX15 AT OUR VOID TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.