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Attributes | |
ACN | 404848 |
Time | |
Date | 199806 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gdm airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16500 msl bound upper : 17500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zbw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1750 |
ASRS Report | 404848 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 404248 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were descending into boston on the gardner two arrival. Before gardner we had been cleared to descend to 11000 ft from FL370. We were told to keep our speed up to pass a lower aircraft. We had descended to intermediate altitudes as they cleared the lower aircraft to descend. After we passed the lower aircraft, we were told to descend to 11000 ft, at 11000 ft slow to 250 KTS. We were doing 320 KTS and descending at about 3000-3500 FPM. At approximately 17500 ft they told us to level at 17000 ft. By the time we stopped the descent we were at 16500 ft. We immediately climbed back to 17000 ft. At 16500 ft we started to get an RA. It was telling us to descend. We had already started our climb and the aircraft ahead was 100 ft below. We continued our climb and when we leveled at 17000 ft, the TCASII showed the opposite aircraft 500 ft below us. I saw the small jet pass to our right side, less than 1 mi. We told the lady controller she had not given us ample warning to maintain the 17000 ft. A lot was going on: pass lower aircraft, keep speed up, trying to descend to cross bronc intersection at 11000 ft. Then, try to stop a steep descent within 500 ft. I believe the controller lost the awareness of the VFR traffic in close proximity to us and altitudes we were at.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT IN ORDER TO MAKE A XING RESTR, ATC AMENDED CLRNC TO STOP AT AN INTERMEDIATE ALT FOR XING VFR BUSINESS JET. THE STOPPING ALT WAS OVERSHOT DUE TO THE HIGH RATE OF DSCNT, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY OVERSHOT AGAIN WHEN ATTEMPTING TO GO BACK TO ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE DSNDING INTO BOSTON ON THE GARDNER TWO ARR. BEFORE GARDNER WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO DSND TO 11000 FT FROM FL370. WE WERE TOLD TO KEEP OUR SPD UP TO PASS A LOWER ACFT. WE HAD DSNDED TO INTERMEDIATE ALTS AS THEY CLRED THE LOWER ACFT TO DSND. AFTER WE PASSED THE LOWER ACFT, WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO 11000 FT, AT 11000 FT SLOW TO 250 KTS. WE WERE DOING 320 KTS AND DSNDING AT ABOUT 3000-3500 FPM. AT APPROX 17500 FT THEY TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 17000 FT. BY THE TIME WE STOPPED THE DSCNT WE WERE AT 16500 FT. WE IMMEDIATELY CLBED BACK TO 17000 FT. AT 16500 FT WE STARTED TO GET AN RA. IT WAS TELLING US TO DSND. WE HAD ALREADY STARTED OUR CLB AND THE ACFT AHEAD WAS 100 FT BELOW. WE CONTINUED OUR CLB AND WHEN WE LEVELED AT 17000 FT, THE TCASII SHOWED THE OPPOSITE ACFT 500 FT BELOW US. I SAW THE SMALL JET PASS TO OUR R SIDE, LESS THAN 1 MI. WE TOLD THE LADY CTLR SHE HAD NOT GIVEN US AMPLE WARNING TO MAINTAIN THE 17000 FT. A LOT WAS GOING ON: PASS LOWER ACFT, KEEP SPD UP, TRYING TO DSND TO CROSS BRONC INTXN AT 11000 FT. THEN, TRY TO STOP A STEEP DSCNT WITHIN 500 FT. I BELIEVE THE CTLR LOST THE AWARENESS OF THE VFR TFC IN CLOSE PROX TO US AND ALTS WE WERE AT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.