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Attributes | |
ACN | 406690 |
Time | |
Date | 199806 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 406690 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Non precision approach at jfk. WX at jfk was 1800 ft overcast. VOR/DME runway 22L approach in use. First officer flying had map display. Captain's display was expanded VOR. Given heading to intercept final approach course. LNAV captured but VOR showed full scale deflection. Went back to heading select. VOR needle came alive very quickly. It was like the needle may have been stuck in the old days. We went through the final approach course slightly. We captured course and went back to LNAV. Tower controller asked if we were doing the ILS or VOR approach and we said VOR. He said we were right of course and we agreed we were slightly right and correcting. Normal landing accomplished. Tower said they had no problem with it, but approach control wanted to make sure we were on the correct approach. We followed the book procedure correctly with backing up with raw data. The VOR needle was just a little slow coming in. Comment: in this day and age, there is no reason to be doing a non precision approach when there is an ILS available. Noise abatement should not take precedent over safety, especially in a widebody transport aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 CREW OVERSHOT THE TURN TO FINAL WHILE EXECUTING THE VOR-DME APCH TO RWY 22L AT JFK.
Narrative: NON PRECISION APCH AT JFK. WX AT JFK WAS 1800 FT OVCST. VOR/DME RWY 22L APCH IN USE. FO FLYING HAD MAP DISPLAY. CAPT'S DISPLAY WAS EXPANDED VOR. GIVEN HDG TO INTERCEPT FINAL APCH COURSE. LNAV CAPTURED BUT VOR SHOWED FULL SCALE DEFLECTION. WENT BACK TO HDG SELECT. VOR NEEDLE CAME ALIVE VERY QUICKLY. IT WAS LIKE THE NEEDLE MAY HAVE BEEN STUCK IN THE OLD DAYS. WE WENT THROUGH THE FINAL APCH COURSE SLIGHTLY. WE CAPTURED COURSE AND WENT BACK TO LNAV. TWR CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE DOING THE ILS OR VOR APCH AND WE SAID VOR. HE SAID WE WERE R OF COURSE AND WE AGREED WE WERE SLIGHTLY R AND CORRECTING. NORMAL LNDG ACCOMPLISHED. TWR SAID THEY HAD NO PROB WITH IT, BUT APCH CTL WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON THE CORRECT APCH. WE FOLLOWED THE BOOK PROC CORRECTLY WITH BACKING UP WITH RAW DATA. THE VOR NEEDLE WAS JUST A LITTLE SLOW COMING IN. COMMENT: IN THIS DAY AND AGE, THERE IS NO REASON TO BE DOING A NON PRECISION APCH WHEN THERE IS AN ILS AVAILABLE. NOISE ABATEMENT SHOULD NOT TAKE PRECEDENT OVER SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IN A WDB ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.