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Attributes | |
ACN | 406990 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zma |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 57 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 406990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Inadvertently flew more than 8 hours in 24 hours due to misleading information from company scheduling/dispatch. Company reported departure time change sufficient to compensate for previous day's flts and hours flown. Without checking my logs aircraft departed. In cruise, discussion with crew members, we discovered our error. Aircraft departed approximately 2 hours before/prior to times being reset. Corrective action will be to further review/understand the complicated FARS regarding flight/duty time, better control of times on my behalf to protect myself from the company scheduler/dispatch misleading information in attempting to move aircraft. Flight duty times should be standardized for flag/domestic supplemental carriers to avoid misunderstanding by flcs who have operated in both environments. Additionally, scheduling and dispatch should be held accountable or should help crews versus misleading them to meet their objectives, thereby reducing pressure on flcs to make hasty decisions on flight/duty time on short notice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FO HAD COMPANY CREW DESK ALTER TIMES SO THAT HE WOULD BE LEGAL FOR THE NEXT DAY'S FLYING.
Narrative: INADVERTENTLY FLEW MORE THAN 8 HRS IN 24 HRS DUE TO MISLEADING INFO FROM COMPANY SCHEDULING/DISPATCH. COMPANY RPTED DEP TIME CHANGE SUFFICIENT TO COMPENSATE FOR PREVIOUS DAY'S FLTS AND HRS FLOWN. WITHOUT CHKING MY LOGS ACFT DEPARTED. IN CRUISE, DISCUSSION WITH CREW MEMBERS, WE DISCOVERED OUR ERROR. ACFT DEPARTED APPROX 2 HRS BEFORE/PRIOR TO TIMES BEING RESET. CORRECTIVE ACTION WILL BE TO FURTHER REVIEW/UNDERSTAND THE COMPLICATED FARS REGARDING FLT/DUTY TIME, BETTER CTL OF TIMES ON MY BEHALF TO PROTECT MYSELF FROM THE COMPANY SCHEDULER/DISPATCH MISLEADING INFO IN ATTEMPTING TO MOVE ACFT. FLT DUTY TIMES SHOULD BE STANDARDIZED FOR FLAG/DOMESTIC SUPPLEMENTAL CARRIERS TO AVOID MISUNDERSTANDING BY FLCS WHO HAVE OPERATED IN BOTH ENVIRONMENTS. ADDITIONALLY, SCHEDULING AND DISPATCH SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE OR SHOULD HELP CREWS VERSUS MISLEADING THEM TO MEET THEIR OBJECTIVES, THEREBY REDUCING PRESSURE ON FLCS TO MAKE HASTY DECISIONS ON FLT/DUTY TIME ON SHORT NOTICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.