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Attributes | |
ACN | 407740 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dxo |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11800 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 6500 |
ASRS Report | 407740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While descending into dtw on the cetus arrival, the first officer placed the descent/climb wheel on the autoplt to 'zero ft' to level the aircraft at 12000 ft. The controller had told us he was keeping us high for traffic and then would be asking for cetus at 12000 ft. The first officer was flying and because of the rate of descent we were at (2500 ft descending), I could tell the autoplt would 'bottom out' below 12000 ft. It did -- it went to 11800 ft and then back to 12000 ft. I talked to the first officer about the need to lead the altitude leveloffs more because of the tendency to bottom out with greater than 1500 FPM rate of descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF DC9-30 DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING INTO DTW ON THE CETUS ARR, THE FO PLACED THE DSCNT/CLB WHEEL ON THE AUTOPLT TO 'ZERO FT' TO LEVEL THE ACFT AT 12000 FT. THE CTLR HAD TOLD US HE WAS KEEPING US HIGH FOR TFC AND THEN WOULD BE ASKING FOR CETUS AT 12000 FT. THE FO WAS FLYING AND BECAUSE OF THE RATE OF DSCNT WE WERE AT (2500 FT DSNDING), I COULD TELL THE AUTOPLT WOULD 'BOTTOM OUT' BELOW 12000 FT. IT DID -- IT WENT TO 11800 FT AND THEN BACK TO 12000 FT. I TALKED TO THE FO ABOUT THE NEED TO LEAD THE ALT LEVELOFFS MORE BECAUSE OF THE TENDENCY TO BOTTOM OUT WITH GREATER THAN 1500 FPM RATE OF DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.