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Attributes | |
ACN | 409260 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mht |
State Reference | NH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mht |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : mna |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 409260 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 408531 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
On vectors to intercept final approach course for ILS approach to runway 17 at mht, we were assigned 3000 ft MSL. After passing 4000 ft MSL, I noticed that my GS flags were in view. (I was flying the leg.) I mentioned the flags to the captain. Since we had briefed the full ILS approach, but not a localizer approach, we both started analyzing the approach plate to determine our new minimums and vdp (visual descent point). When I looked up to check our altitude, we were at 2700 ft MSL and descending. I took corrective action to climb back to 3000 ft. At the same time that we noticed our altitude deviation, the approach controller noticed it, and she then cleared us to a lower altitude. She did not seem particularly bothered by the deviation, since there was no other traffic in the area. Contributing factors include: 1) not anticipating the possibility that the GS would be inoperative, and not briefing the localizer approach ahead of time. 2) both the first officer and captain focusing on the approach plates at the same time, with no one 'watching the airplane.' supplemental information from acn 408531: first officer was flying aircraft descending to 3000 ft on vectors for an ILS approach. At the time I was discussing with mht approach the lack of ILS DME information from the runway 17 ILS. The altitude deviation chime sounded we had passed 3000 ft down to 2700 ft. Contributing factors: short flight from pwm, with many items to respond to on the 'in range' and 'approach' checklists. We were accomplishing these checklists at the time of the occurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 FREIGHTER DSNDS FROM 3000 FT TOO SOON ON AN ALT OVERSHOOT IN A NIGHT OP.
Narrative: ON VECTORS TO INTERCEPT FINAL APCH COURSE FOR ILS APCH TO RWY 17 AT MHT, WE WERE ASSIGNED 3000 FT MSL. AFTER PASSING 4000 FT MSL, I NOTICED THAT MY GS FLAGS WERE IN VIEW. (I WAS FLYING THE LEG.) I MENTIONED THE FLAGS TO THE CAPT. SINCE WE HAD BRIEFED THE FULL ILS APCH, BUT NOT A LOC APCH, WE BOTH STARTED ANALYZING THE APCH PLATE TO DETERMINE OUR NEW MINIMUMS AND VDP (VISUAL DSCNT POINT). WHEN I LOOKED UP TO CHK OUR ALT, WE WERE AT 2700 FT MSL AND DSNDING. I TOOK CORRECTIVE ACTION TO CLB BACK TO 3000 FT. AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE NOTICED OUR ALTDEV, THE APCH CTLR NOTICED IT, AND SHE THEN CLRED US TO A LOWER ALT. SHE DID NOT SEEM PARTICULARLY BOTHERED BY THE DEV, SINCE THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC IN THE AREA. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDE: 1) NOT ANTICIPATING THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE GS WOULD BE INOP, AND NOT BRIEFING THE LOC APCH AHEAD OF TIME. 2) BOTH THE FO AND CAPT FOCUSING ON THE APCH PLATES AT THE SAME TIME, WITH NO ONE 'WATCHING THE AIRPLANE.' SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 408531: FO WAS FLYING ACFT DSNDING TO 3000 FT ON VECTORS FOR AN ILS APCH. AT THE TIME I WAS DISCUSSING WITH MHT APCH THE LACK OF ILS DME INFO FROM THE RWY 17 ILS. THE ALTDEV CHIME SOUNDED WE HAD PASSED 3000 FT DOWN TO 2700 FT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: SHORT FLT FROM PWM, WITH MANY ITEMS TO RESPOND TO ON THE 'IN RANGE' AND 'APCH' CHKLISTS. WE WERE ACCOMPLISHING THESE CHKLISTS AT THE TIME OF THE OCCURRENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.