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Attributes | |
ACN | 412010 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Mon |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 412010 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
During descent into ord, center gave clearance for us to descend to 12000 ft by 40 mi southeast of ord. It was read back, pointed out on MCP, and acknowledged by both pilots. Upon checking in with ord approach, they asked us to confirm our altitude as 12000 ft. We said we were at 12000 ft as assigned by previous controller. He replied that usually people were cleared to 11000 ft. No conflict occurred, but it makes us uneasy. Problem may have been a missed communication or maybe there was a reason center kept us at 12000 ft instead of 11000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG CREW WAS ASSIGNED A XING ALT OF 12000 FT BY CTR CTLR. WHEN CHANGED OVER TO APCH CTL THE NEW CTLR EXPECTED THEM TO BE AT 11000 FT.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT INTO ORD, CTR GAVE CLRNC FOR US TO DSND TO 12000 FT BY 40 MI SE OF ORD. IT WAS READ BACK, POINTED OUT ON MCP, AND ACKNOWLEDGED BY BOTH PLTS. UPON CHKING IN WITH ORD APCH, THEY ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR ALT AS 12000 FT. WE SAID WE WERE AT 12000 FT AS ASSIGNED BY PREVIOUS CTLR. HE REPLIED THAT USUALLY PEOPLE WERE CLRED TO 11000 FT. NO CONFLICT OCCURRED, BUT IT MAKES US UNEASY. PROB MAY HAVE BEEN A MISSED COM OR MAYBE THERE WAS A REASON CTR KEPT US AT 12000 FT INSTEAD OF 11000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.