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Attributes | |
ACN | 413116 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eck |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 413116 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
In cruise at FL330 after about 30-45 mins, I noticed that it was taking significantly more power (+.10 EPR) to remain at cruise mach (mach .75) than scheduled. I noted that the flap indicator showed 5 degrees flap extension, handle up, slats retracted. I sent the first officer back to visually check flap position and he reported that the flaps appeared to be extended 5 degrees. I then went back to see, and also felt they were extended to at or near 5 degrees. I requested a lower altitude from ATC and was cleared initially to FL250. I kept the airspeed as low as safely possible during descent until we reached an altitude where the flap/mach airspeed limits were no longer exceeded. We initiated a divert into dtw. At 12000 ft, I noted that the flaps appeared to have retracted on their own. At no time did we move the handle out of the 'up' detent during this event. On approach, landing and taxi in, the flaps extended and retracted normally. The DC9 has old, electro-mechanical type flap indicators and it is common for these to not read 'exactly' on the selected flap position. Most DC9 pilots learn to ignore indications up to several degrees off of what is selected. If extra power had not been required (and my suspicions raised) I might not have noted the 5 degree indication at all as being abnormal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 CREW HAD UNCOMMANDED FLAP EXTENSION, DURING CRUISE.
Narrative: IN CRUISE AT FL330 AFTER ABOUT 30-45 MINS, I NOTICED THAT IT WAS TAKING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PWR (+.10 EPR) TO REMAIN AT CRUISE MACH (MACH .75) THAN SCHEDULED. I NOTED THAT THE FLAP INDICATOR SHOWED 5 DEGS FLAP EXTENSION, HANDLE UP, SLATS RETRACTED. I SENT THE FO BACK TO VISUALLY CHK FLAP POS AND HE RPTED THAT THE FLAPS APPEARED TO BE EXTENDED 5 DEGS. I THEN WENT BACK TO SEE, AND ALSO FELT THEY WERE EXTENDED TO AT OR NEAR 5 DEGS. I REQUESTED A LOWER ALT FROM ATC AND WAS CLRED INITIALLY TO FL250. I KEPT THE AIRSPD AS LOW AS SAFELY POSSIBLE DURING DSCNT UNTIL WE REACHED AN ALT WHERE THE FLAP/MACH AIRSPD LIMITS WERE NO LONGER EXCEEDED. WE INITIATED A DIVERT INTO DTW. AT 12000 FT, I NOTED THAT THE FLAPS APPEARED TO HAVE RETRACTED ON THEIR OWN. AT NO TIME DID WE MOVE THE HANDLE OUT OF THE 'UP' DETENT DURING THIS EVENT. ON APCH, LNDG AND TAXI IN, THE FLAPS EXTENDED AND RETRACTED NORMALLY. THE DC9 HAS OLD, ELECTRO-MECHANICAL TYPE FLAP INDICATORS AND IT IS COMMON FOR THESE TO NOT READ 'EXACTLY' ON THE SELECTED FLAP POS. MOST DC9 PLTS LEARN TO IGNORE INDICATIONS UP TO SEVERAL DEGS OFF OF WHAT IS SELECTED. IF EXTRA PWR HAD NOT BEEN REQUIRED (AND MY SUSPICIONS RAISED) I MIGHT NOT HAVE NOTED THE 5 DEG INDICATION AT ALL AS BEING ABNORMAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.