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A dfw controller gives a lahso instruction to a landing B757 but receives no acknowledgement of the clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 413556 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 18 |
| ASRS Report | 413556 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Air carrier xx B757 was cleared to land runway 35C with restr to hold short of taxiway ej on landing roll. He did not read back the hold short instructions. This is happening on a regular basis with air carrier pilots. I believe it's their way of protesting the fact that they don't like lahso procedures. If they don't want to accept the clearance, then they need to say so -- not just ignore it. This behavior greatly increases the potential for system errors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DFW CTLR GIVES A LAHSO INSTRUCTION TO A LNDG B757 BUT RECEIVES NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE CLRNC.
Narrative: ACR XX B757 WAS CLRED TO LAND RWY 35C WITH RESTR TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY EJ ON LNDG ROLL. HE DID NOT READ BACK THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. THIS IS HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH ACR PLTS. I BELIEVE IT'S THEIR WAY OF PROTESTING THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T LIKE LAHSO PROCS. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT THE CLRNC, THEN THEY NEED TO SAY SO -- NOT JUST IGNORE IT. THIS BEHAVIOR GREATLY INCREASES THE POTENTIAL FOR SYS ERRORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.