Air carrier crew overflies assigned holding fix in ZTL airspace.

Attributes
ACN	416420
Time
Date	199810
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : atl
State Reference	GA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : ztl
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 1200
ASRS Report	416420
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 5900 flight time type : 6500
ASRS Report	415827
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While operating from roa to atl, I was tracking the 041 degree radial off the atl VOR on the macey 2 arrival and had been given clearance to hold at macey intersection. It wasn't until we were already 8 mi past our holding fix that ZTL began to question our compliance with the clearance. We were already tracking the inbound course of the published hold, but failed to turn outbound when crossing the fix. Once notified that we had missed the hold, we immediately made a right turn back to the fix. Both the captain and myself were fatigued at the time, but the main cause of the noncompliance was due to our inattentiveness during a cockpit conversation. We were not in sterile cockpit, but we should not have let a conversation get in the way of our duties. However, our noncompliance did not cause any conflicts with other aircraft. Supplemental information from acn 415827: we were already turning to go back to enter the hold at 56 DME and center told us to go ahead and turn back to atl, never mind the hold.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR CREW OVERFLIES ASSIGNED HOLDING FIX IN ZTL AIRSPACE.

Narrative: WHILE OPERATING FROM ROA TO ATL, I WAS TRACKING THE 041 DEG RADIAL OFF THE ATL VOR ON THE MACEY 2 ARR AND HAD BEEN GIVEN CLRNC TO HOLD AT MACEY INTXN. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE WERE ALREADY 8 MI PAST OUR HOLDING FIX THAT ZTL BEGAN TO QUESTION OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE CLRNC. WE WERE ALREADY TRACKING THE INBOUND COURSE OF THE PUBLISHED HOLD, BUT FAILED TO TURN OUTBOUND WHEN XING THE FIX. ONCE NOTIFIED THAT WE HAD MISSED THE HOLD, WE IMMEDIATELY MADE A R TURN BACK TO THE FIX. BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF WERE FATIGUED AT THE TIME, BUT THE MAIN CAUSE OF THE NONCOMPLIANCE WAS DUE TO OUR INATTENTIVENESS DURING A COCKPIT CONVERSATION. WE WERE NOT IN STERILE COCKPIT, BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LET A CONVERSATION GET IN THE WAY OF OUR DUTIES. HOWEVER, OUR NONCOMPLIANCE DID NOT CAUSE ANY CONFLICTS WITH OTHER ACFT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 415827: WE WERE ALREADY TURNING TO GO BACK TO ENTER THE HOLD AT 56 DME AND CTR TOLD US TO GO AHEAD AND TURN BACK TO ATL, NEVER MIND THE HOLD.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.