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Attributes | |
ACN | 418360 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lit |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme tower : ads |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 3431 flight time type : 1630 |
ASRS Report | 418360 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Given a crossing restr descending into lit. When it became apparent we would not meet the restr, I informed ATC. They only replied with a grunt. On the same flight, we had also missed a speed restr going into mem over the tammy intersection. Other occurrences that happened were flying into forecast icing conditions with a deferred engine anti-ice valve. The captain did not seem conducive to any of my suggestions. Also, he had taken a 45 min nap in the airplane. I believe it was the lack of CRM that created the problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT JET CREW HAD CRM PROBS WHEN THE CAPT MISSED SEVERAL ALTS AND SPD RESTRS, AND IGNORED RULES AGAINST FLT IN ICING CONDITIONS.
Narrative: GIVEN A XING RESTR DSNDING INTO LIT. WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT WE WOULD NOT MEET THE RESTR, I INFORMED ATC. THEY ONLY REPLIED WITH A GRUNT. ON THE SAME FLT, WE HAD ALSO MISSED A SPD RESTR GOING INTO MEM OVER THE TAMMY INTXN. OTHER OCCURRENCES THAT HAPPENED WERE FLYING INTO FORECAST ICING CONDITIONS WITH A DEFERRED ENG ANTI-ICE VALVE. THE CAPT DID NOT SEEM CONDUCIVE TO ANY OF MY SUGGESTIONS. ALSO, HE HAD TAKEN A 45 MIN NAP IN THE AIRPLANE. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LACK OF CRM THAT CREATED THE PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.