B757 crew on visual approach to phx receive TCASII TA 5-6 mi on final at 2000 ft.

Attributes
ACN	418769
Time
Date	199810
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : phx
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 2000 agl bound upper : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : phx
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	418769
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 800
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Flying air carrier X tus to phx. Vectored to final for runway 26R. Broke out VMC below 5000 ft MSL. Reported field in sight at 8-10 mi. We were told to expect runway 26L, but cleared for visual to runway 26R. At about 6-7 mi on final, I saw an aircraft on TCASII at 11 O'clock at about 2 mi from us and indicating 800 ft below us. I immediately shallowed our descent. We then received a TA call. I stopped our descent and began a slight climb. We never saw the aircraft, but TCASII indicated it passed directly under us, 800 ft below us. At that time we were approximately 500 ft above GS. I told the captain to report it to approach because the aircraft was headed toward the next airliner behind us. Approach merely responded with 'roger' and no warning to the next aircraft. On the ground, I called the approach supervisor. He was totally unconcerned and stated that this happened all the time, everyday. When I stated that we would have passed dangerously close if I had not climbed, he stated, 'I doubt that.' I found this non-attitude toward this incredibly dangerous situation absolutely unbelievable. Someone needs to change the boundaries of the class B airspace around phx and force these approach controllers to issue us traffic warnings or there will be a fatal accident here. We do get below GS on occasion, and who is to say these small plane pilots never go a few hundred ft higher than intended?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757 CREW ON VISUAL APCH TO PHX RECEIVE TCASII TA 5-6 MI ON FINAL AT 2000 FT.

Narrative: FLYING ACR X TUS TO PHX. VECTORED TO FINAL FOR RWY 26R. BROKE OUT VMC BELOW 5000 FT MSL. RPTED FIELD IN SIGHT AT 8-10 MI. WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT RWY 26L, BUT CLRED FOR VISUAL TO RWY 26R. AT ABOUT 6-7 MI ON FINAL, I SAW AN ACFT ON TCASII AT 11 O'CLOCK AT ABOUT 2 MI FROM US AND INDICATING 800 FT BELOW US. I IMMEDIATELY SHALLOWED OUR DSCNT. WE THEN RECEIVED A TA CALL. I STOPPED OUR DSCNT AND BEGAN A SLIGHT CLB. WE NEVER SAW THE ACFT, BUT TCASII INDICATED IT PASSED DIRECTLY UNDER US, 800 FT BELOW US. AT THAT TIME WE WERE APPROX 500 FT ABOVE GS. I TOLD THE CAPT TO RPT IT TO APCH BECAUSE THE ACFT WAS HEADED TOWARD THE NEXT AIRLINER BEHIND US. APCH MERELY RESPONDED WITH 'ROGER' AND NO WARNING TO THE NEXT ACFT. ON THE GND, I CALLED THE APCH SUPVR. HE WAS TOTALLY UNCONCERNED AND STATED THAT THIS HAPPENED ALL THE TIME, EVERYDAY. WHEN I STATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE PASSED DANGEROUSLY CLOSE IF I HAD NOT CLBED, HE STATED, 'I DOUBT THAT.' I FOUND THIS NON-ATTITUDE TOWARD THIS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS SIT ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. SOMEONE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE AROUND PHX AND FORCE THESE APCH CTLRS TO ISSUE US TFC WARNINGS OR THERE WILL BE A FATAL ACCIDENT HERE. WE DO GET BELOW GS ON OCCASION, AND WHO IS TO SAY THESE SMALL PLANE PLTS NEVER GO A FEW HUNDRED FT HIGHER THAN INTENDED?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.