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Attributes | |
ACN | 419498 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hpn airport : hpn |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 75 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hpn |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 990 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 419498 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I filed an IFR flight plan for departure at XA30Z for our trip from hpn to mtn. After receiving clearance from ground control at hpn to taxi to runway 16, we were #3 for departure. The aircraft immediately preceding us, a DH8 commuter, was cleared for takeoff, another aircraft was a 3 mi final, and we were cleared for immediate takeoff. With a no wind situation, I attempted to sidestep possible wake turbulence after rotation, but was unsuccessful. The vortex caused our aircraft to make an abrupt roll to the left with left wing roll. Positive recovery was made and my copilot advised the tower that we encountered the wake turbulence. No wake turbulence caution was given by the tower, nor was any 3 min wait put into effect at that time. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter participated in structured wake turbulence callback study. Reporter stated that there was no more than 1 min between clearance for takeoff from preceding aircraft. There was a long line of aircraft for departure and tower was moving all aircraft as rapidly as possible to get each aircraft airborne with minimum delay. Reporter stated that she would go to the end of the taxi line and wait 30 mins if necessary, rather than have such an encounter again. Reporter had planned to deviate to the side of the runway to avoid any possible wake. The winds were reported to be light, at 6 KTS, down the runway. She feels that the winds were not quite down the runway, there must have been a slight crosswind that moved the wake to the side of the runway, which is why the encounter happened. Control at the time of the encounter was rated as partial control. There was no significant deviation from flight path. Just 40 degrees of roll, close to the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA32, DEPARTING FROM HPN, ENCOUNTERS WAKE TURB FROM PRECEDING DHC8.
Narrative: I FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN FOR DEP AT XA30Z FOR OUR TRIP FROM HPN TO MTN. AFTER RECEIVING CLRNC FROM GND CTL AT HPN TO TAXI TO RWY 16, WE WERE #3 FOR DEP. THE ACFT IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING US, A DH8 COMMUTER, WAS CLRED FOR TKOF, ANOTHER ACFT WAS A 3 MI FINAL, AND WE WERE CLRED FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF. WITH A NO WIND SIT, I ATTEMPTED TO SIDESTEP POSSIBLE WAKE TURB AFTER ROTATION, BUT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. THE VORTEX CAUSED OUR ACFT TO MAKE AN ABRUPT ROLL TO THE L WITH L WING ROLL. POSITIVE RECOVERY WAS MADE AND MY COPLT ADVISED THE TWR THAT WE ENCOUNTERED THE WAKE TURB. NO WAKE TURB CAUTION WAS GIVEN BY THE TWR, NOR WAS ANY 3 MIN WAIT PUT INTO EFFECT AT THAT TIME. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR PARTICIPATED IN STRUCTURED WAKE TURB CALLBACK STUDY. RPTR STATED THAT THERE WAS NO MORE THAN 1 MIN BTWN CLRNC FOR TKOF FROM PRECEDING ACFT. THERE WAS A LONG LINE OF ACFT FOR DEP AND TWR WAS MOVING ALL ACFT AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET EACH ACFT AIRBORNE WITH MINIMUM DELAY. RPTR STATED THAT SHE WOULD GO TO THE END OF THE TAXI LINE AND WAIT 30 MINS IF NECESSARY, RATHER THAN HAVE SUCH AN ENCOUNTER AGAIN. RPTR HAD PLANNED TO DEVIATE TO THE SIDE OF THE RWY TO AVOID ANY POSSIBLE WAKE. THE WINDS WERE RPTED TO BE LIGHT, AT 6 KTS, DOWN THE RWY. SHE FEELS THAT THE WINDS WERE NOT QUITE DOWN THE RWY, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A SLIGHT XWIND THAT MOVED THE WAKE TO THE SIDE OF THE RWY, WHICH IS WHY THE ENCOUNTER HAPPENED. CTL AT THE TIME OF THE ENCOUNTER WAS RATED AS PARTIAL CTL. THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT DEV FROM FLT PATH. JUST 40 DEGS OF ROLL, CLOSE TO THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.