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Attributes | |
ACN | 419940 |
Time | |
Date | 199811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5100 |
ASRS Report | 419940 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was the captain of flight xyz. This was a B747 freighter flying from jfk to anc. The flight was uneventful from my point of view, but the next day I was informed of some circumstances concerning the flight that I was previously unaware. Apparently, we had transported several hazmat items that we as a crew had not been informed of, but later came to the attention of our cargo personnel in anc. The scenario as I have been able to piece together is as follows: I signed 1 notice to PIC form in jfk and was aware of the hazmat as stated on the form. This form was with our flight papers en route and was given to the cargo agent upon our arrival in anc. The following day I learned that we had, in fact, also had other hazmat items on board, of which we were totally unaware. I was told that there were actually 3 notice to PIC forms, but we were only provided with one. I still do not know the specifics of this hazmat. By definition, it could have created a hazardous situation during our flight. From my perspective, the total lack of knowledge as to the nature of this cargo and its whereabouts on the aircraft is absolutely unacceptable. It also idents a breakdown in our hazmat handling procedures that needs to be corrected in order to prevent future occurrences. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter states that he is now working with the company, ie, the chief pilot, and they are trying to solve the cargo problems in-house. He felt they were making good progress.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B747 FROM JFK TO ANC SIGNED FOR AND CARRIED HAZMAT. THE NEXT DAY THE CREW LEARNED THAT NOT ONLY DID THEY CARRY THE HAZMAT THEY HAD SIGNED FOR, BUT OTHER HAZMAT WAS ABOARD THAT THE CREW KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT OF FLT XYZ. THIS WAS A B747 FREIGHTER FLYING FROM JFK TO ANC. THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, BUT THE NEXT DAY I WAS INFORMED OF SOME CIRCUMSTANCES CONCERNING THE FLT THAT I WAS PREVIOUSLY UNAWARE. APPARENTLY, WE HAD TRANSPORTED SEVERAL HAZMAT ITEMS THAT WE AS A CREW HAD NOT BEEN INFORMED OF, BUT LATER CAME TO THE ATTN OF OUR CARGO PERSONNEL IN ANC. THE SCENARIO AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PIECE TOGETHER IS AS FOLLOWS: I SIGNED 1 NOTICE TO PIC FORM IN JFK AND WAS AWARE OF THE HAZMAT AS STATED ON THE FORM. THIS FORM WAS WITH OUR FLT PAPERS ENRTE AND WAS GIVEN TO THE CARGO AGENT UPON OUR ARR IN ANC. THE FOLLOWING DAY I LEARNED THAT WE HAD, IN FACT, ALSO HAD OTHER HAZMAT ITEMS ON BOARD, OF WHICH WE WERE TOTALLY UNAWARE. I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY 3 NOTICE TO PIC FORMS, BUT WE WERE ONLY PROVIDED WITH ONE. I STILL DO NOT KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THIS HAZMAT. BY DEFINITION, IT COULD HAVE CREATED A HAZARDOUS SIT DURING OUR FLT. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE TOTAL LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AS TO THE NATURE OF THIS CARGO AND ITS WHEREABOUTS ON THE ACFT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. IT ALSO IDENTS A BREAKDOWN IN OUR HAZMAT HANDLING PROCS THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IN ORDER TO PREVENT FUTURE OCCURRENCES. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATES THAT HE IS NOW WORKING WITH THE COMPANY, IE, THE CHIEF PLT, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE CARGO PROBS IN-HOUSE. HE FELT THEY WERE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.