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Attributes | |
ACN | 421712 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ikk |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 600 agl bound upper : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 12320 flight time type : 1075 |
ASRS Report | 421712 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was giving instrument training to the company and aircraft owner. We were on an IFR flight plan to an uncontrolled airport which has an ILS. We were vectored for an ILS and would cancel and circle to land on the runway in the opposite direction. It was clear skies, unlimited visibility. I canceled IFR and told the student to take over visually at circling minimums. He did and entered left downwind. I told him to keep it in tight. I also told him not to be too steep on final and he carried the downwind out a bit far. He turned base leg over a small group of houses. I didn't notice the houses because I was distraction looking for traffic. I explained to him in actual IFR conditions he should have turned prior to the houses. We were in good VFR and because of this he should have flown beyond the houses to avoid overflying them. I should have told him earlier on downwind that if he couldn't keep it tight he should go past the houses before turning base. We as flight instructors must constantly be aware of and constantly remind our students to fly neighborly -- flying neighborly results in added safety, noise abatement and better relations with surrounding communities.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING AN INST TRAINING FLT IN A BEECH KING AIR 90 (BE90) THE TRAINEE FLEW LOW OVER HOUSES DURING BASE LEG AND FINAL CAUSING AN UNNECESSARY NOISE PROB TO THE RESIDENCES BELOW.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING INST TRAINING TO THE COMPANY AND ACFT OWNER. WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN TO AN UNCTLED ARPT WHICH HAS AN ILS. WE WERE VECTORED FOR AN ILS AND WOULD CANCEL AND CIRCLE TO LAND ON THE RWY IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. IT WAS CLR SKIES, UNLIMITED VISIBILITY. I CANCELED IFR AND TOLD THE STUDENT TO TAKE OVER VISUALLY AT CIRCLING MINIMUMS. HE DID AND ENTERED L DOWNWIND. I TOLD HIM TO KEEP IT IN TIGHT. I ALSO TOLD HIM NOT TO BE TOO STEEP ON FINAL AND HE CARRIED THE DOWNWIND OUT A BIT FAR. HE TURNED BASE LEG OVER A SMALL GROUP OF HOUSES. I DIDN'T NOTICE THE HOUSES BECAUSE I WAS DISTR LOOKING FOR TFC. I EXPLAINED TO HIM IN ACTUAL IFR CONDITIONS HE SHOULD HAVE TURNED PRIOR TO THE HOUSES. WE WERE IN GOOD VFR AND BECAUSE OF THIS HE SHOULD HAVE FLOWN BEYOND THE HOUSES TO AVOID OVERFLYING THEM. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM EARLIER ON DOWNWIND THAT IF HE COULDN'T KEEP IT TIGHT HE SHOULD GO PAST THE HOUSES BEFORE TURNING BASE. WE AS FLT INSTRUCTORS MUST CONSTANTLY BE AWARE OF AND CONSTANTLY REMIND OUR STUDENTS TO FLY NEIGHBORLY -- FLYING NEIGHBORLY RESULTS IN ADDED SAFETY, NOISE ABATEMENT AND BETTER RELATIONS WITH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.