 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
A new DC10 so got the planned weight manifest and the final weight manifest mixed up. Crew took off without the final numbers.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 422430 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199812 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bwi |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : far |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 42 |
| ASRS Report | 422430 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 422335 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Checklist being read during taxi. Prior to weight portion I asked via ACARS for weights, got a return and printout with new weights, entered the new zero fuel weight at panel and passenger count agreed. However (realized at a later time), this was an updated preliminary. ACARS printed the final right after liftoff (noticed when I put pneumatics on at power reduction) takeoff at xa:31, printout at xa:32. Preliminary weights (updated weights which were used) and finals were same. When I changed zero fuel weight at my panel, it must have triggered finals in my mind when reached on the checklist as I was giving cabin ready announcement, reading checklist, and xchking the pilots doing or having done their items.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A NEW DC10 SO GOT THE PLANNED WT MANIFEST AND THE FINAL WT MANIFEST MIXED UP. CREW TOOK OFF WITHOUT THE FINAL NUMBERS.
Narrative: CHKLIST BEING READ DURING TAXI. PRIOR TO WT PORTION I ASKED VIA ACARS FOR WTS, GOT A RETURN AND PRINTOUT WITH NEW WTS, ENTERED THE NEW ZERO FUEL WT AT PANEL AND PAX COUNT AGREED. HOWEVER (REALIZED AT A LATER TIME), THIS WAS AN UPDATED PRELIMINARY. ACARS PRINTED THE FINAL RIGHT AFTER LIFTOFF (NOTICED WHEN I PUT PNEUMATICS ON AT PWR REDUCTION) TKOF AT XA:31, PRINTOUT AT XA:32. PRELIMINARY WTS (UPDATED WTS WHICH WERE USED) AND FINALS WERE SAME. WHEN I CHANGED ZERO FUEL WT AT MY PANEL, IT MUST HAVE TRIGGERED FINALS IN MY MIND WHEN REACHED ON THE CHKLIST AS I WAS GIVING CABIN READY ANNOUNCEMENT, READING CHKLIST, AND XCHKING THE PLTS DOING OR HAVING DONE THEIR ITEMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.