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Attributes | |
ACN | 423007 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 423007 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Inbound crew wrote up 2 items: cabin inner window and trim loose and seat upholstery loose. About 10 mins prior to push, we called operations to ask about the maintenance signoff. They said maintenance technician said it could wait until dfw. Checked MEL section 1, P.6, paragraph yy, which states: examples of PIREPS not requiring a balancing entry include items that have been flight crew placarded -- information to maintenance entries -- obvious non airworthiness items such as loose or missing cockpit trim, cabin and convenience items of a non airworthiness nature. We felt these 2 write-ups fell into this group, and departed without maintenance signoff. Upon landing at dfw, mechanic there stated this was not legal and had to report the incident. If this is true, the MEL is misleading on this issue and the operations personnel at ZZZ need to be advised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 WAS DISPATCHED WITH 2 NON AIRWORTHINESS ITEMS WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN CONFLICT WITH THE MEL DEPENDING ON INTERP.
Narrative: INBOUND CREW WROTE UP 2 ITEMS: CABIN INNER WINDOW AND TRIM LOOSE AND SEAT UPHOLSTERY LOOSE. ABOUT 10 MINS PRIOR TO PUSH, WE CALLED OPS TO ASK ABOUT THE MAINT SIGNOFF. THEY SAID MAINT TECHNICIAN SAID IT COULD WAIT UNTIL DFW. CHKED MEL SECTION 1, P.6, PARAGRAPH YY, WHICH STATES: EXAMPLES OF PIREPS NOT REQUIRING A BALANCING ENTRY INCLUDE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FLC PLACARDED -- INFO TO MAINT ENTRIES -- OBVIOUS NON AIRWORTHINESS ITEMS SUCH AS LOOSE OR MISSING COCKPIT TRIM, CABIN AND CONVENIENCE ITEMS OF A NON AIRWORTHINESS NATURE. WE FELT THESE 2 WRITE-UPS FELL INTO THIS GROUP, AND DEPARTED WITHOUT MAINT SIGNOFF. UPON LNDG AT DFW, MECH THERE STATED THIS WAS NOT LEGAL AND HAD TO RPT THE INCIDENT. IF THIS IS TRUE, THE MEL IS MISLEADING ON THIS ISSUE AND THE OPS PERSONNEL AT ZZZ NEED TO BE ADVISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.