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Attributes | |
ACN | 423690 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 423690 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On dec/xa/98 I was the first officer aboard flight operating ord-pdx. On this night, ord was running visual approachs to runways 9L&right and departures on runway 32L from intersection T10. ATC cleared us to taxi out to runway 32L taxiway T10 and once there, tower took us into position and hold. We were not advised of an arrival on runway 9L, but as tower cleared us for takeoff we noted an aircraft landing across our runway towards the departure end. We proceeded with the takeoff. At V1 the aircraft buffeted slightly, and a loud bang was noted (the captain saw a white flash out of his peripheral vision). By the time this was noted we were at vr and continued the takeoff without incident. On climb out we discussed if we had a compressor stall induced by wake turbulence from the arriving aircraft. The engineer had not noted any engine anomalies, but we still believe that the wake which would have settled at approximately our rotation point, disturbed the air flow to one of the engines and triggered a momentary compressor stall. This should be another situation considered during simultaneous runway operations. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter participated in wake turbulence structured callback program. Flight crew saw the approach aircraft cross their intended departure path but didn't feel it would present any problem. Their aircraft encountered the landing aircraft's wake just at their rotation point. They were not airborne when they heard a very loud bang. The captain saw a flash of light on the left side of the aircraft. All flight crew recognized the sound of a compressor stall on the left side of the aircraft. If they were to do it over again, reporter said they would wait 1 or 2 mins to assure clearance from wake of landing aircraft before starting takeoff roll.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC8-71 SUFFERS AN ENG COMPRESSOR STALL AT ROTATION DURING TKOF FROM ORD, RWY 32L. A LNDG ACFT ON AN INTERSECTING RWY HDG IS THOUGHT TO HAVE CREATED THE WAKE THAT CAUSED THE STALL.
Narrative: ON DEC/XA/98 I WAS THE FO ABOARD FLT OPERATING ORD-PDX. ON THIS NIGHT, ORD WAS RUNNING VISUAL APCHS TO RWYS 9L&R AND DEPS ON RWY 32L FROM INTXN T10. ATC CLRED US TO TAXI OUT TO RWY 32L TXWY T10 AND ONCE THERE, TWR TOOK US INTO POS AND HOLD. WE WERE NOT ADVISED OF AN ARR ON RWY 9L, BUT AS TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF WE NOTED AN ACFT LNDG ACROSS OUR RWY TOWARDS THE DEP END. WE PROCEEDED WITH THE TKOF. AT V1 THE ACFT BUFFETED SLIGHTLY, AND A LOUD BANG WAS NOTED (THE CAPT SAW A WHITE FLASH OUT OF HIS PERIPHERAL VISION). BY THE TIME THIS WAS NOTED WE WERE AT VR AND CONTINUED THE TKOF WITHOUT INCIDENT. ON CLBOUT WE DISCUSSED IF WE HAD A COMPRESSOR STALL INDUCED BY WAKE TURB FROM THE ARRIVING ACFT. THE ENGINEER HAD NOT NOTED ANY ENG ANOMALIES, BUT WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WAKE WHICH WOULD HAVE SETTLED AT APPROX OUR ROTATION POINT, DISTURBED THE AIR FLOW TO ONE OF THE ENGS AND TRIGGERED A MOMENTARY COMPRESSOR STALL. THIS SHOULD BE ANOTHER SIT CONSIDERED DURING SIMULTANEOUS RWY OPS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR PARTICIPATED IN WAKE TURB STRUCTURED CALLBACK PROGRAM. FLC SAW THE APCH ACFT CROSS THEIR INTENDED DEP PATH BUT DIDN'T FEEL IT WOULD PRESENT ANY PROB. THEIR ACFT ENCOUNTERED THE LNDG ACFT'S WAKE JUST AT THEIR ROTATION POINT. THEY WERE NOT AIRBORNE WHEN THEY HEARD A VERY LOUD BANG. THE CAPT SAW A FLASH OF LIGHT ON THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT. ALL FLC RECOGNIZED THE SOUND OF A COMPRESSOR STALL ON THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT. IF THEY WERE TO DO IT OVER AGAIN, RPTR SAID THEY WOULD WAIT 1 OR 2 MINS TO ASSURE CLRNC FROM WAKE OF LNDG ACFT BEFORE STARTING TKOF ROLL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.