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Attributes | |
ACN | 424657 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yyz |
State Reference | ON |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 424657 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 424810 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing yyz, departure immediately cleared us to FL230. We maintained 200 KIAS until climbing through 3000 ft AGL, and then began accelerating to 320 KIAS. When we were well above 10000 ft, I noticed that there was nothing written on the company pages about exceeding 250 KIAS in the climb above 3000 ft AGL. I then looked at the yul company pages, where it is written that we can do so. Examining the yyz page for noise abatement procedures, I found that it is written that for noise abatement 250 KIAS cannot be exceeded until above 10000 ft. This was our fault because we thought that it was permissible to exceed 250 KIAS in a climb above 3000 ft AGL if cleared above 10000 ft at all canadian airports. I would recommend that a note be placed on the company page at yyz warning not to do this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW EXCEEDS MAX NOISE ABATEMENT CLB AIRSPD AT YYZ.
Narrative: DEPARTING YYZ, DEP IMMEDIATELY CLRED US TO FL230. WE MAINTAINED 200 KIAS UNTIL CLBING THROUGH 3000 FT AGL, AND THEN BEGAN ACCELERATING TO 320 KIAS. WHEN WE WERE WELL ABOVE 10000 FT, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NOTHING WRITTEN ON THE COMPANY PAGES ABOUT EXCEEDING 250 KIAS IN THE CLB ABOVE 3000 FT AGL. I THEN LOOKED AT THE YUL COMPANY PAGES, WHERE IT IS WRITTEN THAT WE CAN DO SO. EXAMINING THE YYZ PAGE FOR NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS, I FOUND THAT IT IS WRITTEN THAT FOR NOISE ABATEMENT 250 KIAS CANNOT BE EXCEEDED UNTIL ABOVE 10000 FT. THIS WAS OUR FAULT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS PERMISSIBLE TO EXCEED 250 KIAS IN A CLB ABOVE 3000 FT AGL IF CLRED ABOVE 10000 FT AT ALL CANADIAN ARPTS. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT A NOTE BE PLACED ON THE COMPANY PAGE AT YYZ WARNING NOT TO DO THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.