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Attributes | |
ACN | 424978 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : evv |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 10177 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 424978 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I am a check airman for our company in the EMB120. I was doing an IOE observation with the FAA inspector on the jump seat. I was in the right seat and the new captain was in the left seat. Our company has a pushback procedure and one item on this procedure is to have the nose gear pinned while pushing back, with tow bar and tug. The procedure and checklists are organized as to: start both engines at the gate, then push the aircraft back and unhook the tow bar and remove the gear pin. The ground personnel did not seem to have a gear pin so the new captain elected to start the right engine at the gate, then push back. The aircraft has a set of gear pins in the cockpit, so the pin used was from the aircraft. After pushback, the pin would be handed back to the cockpit through the left window. Then the left engine was started. We finished both the checklists for engine start and pushback, then continued on with the taxi checklist. Normal operations from this point on for an uneventful flight. My only concern is that we started and stopped in the middle of both the start engine and pushback checklists. The FAA frowns on this I know.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E120 CREW DID NOT COMPLETE THE PUSHBACK, AND ENG START CHKLISTS IN A SEQUENTIAL MANNER.
Narrative: I AM A CHK AIRMAN FOR OUR COMPANY IN THE EMB120. I WAS DOING AN IOE OBSERVATION WITH THE FAA INSPECTOR ON THE JUMP SEAT. I WAS IN THE R SEAT AND THE NEW CAPT WAS IN THE L SEAT. OUR COMPANY HAS A PUSHBACK PROC AND ONE ITEM ON THIS PROC IS TO HAVE THE NOSE GEAR PINNED WHILE PUSHING BACK, WITH TOW BAR AND TUG. THE PROC AND CHKLISTS ARE ORGANIZED AS TO: START BOTH ENGS AT THE GATE, THEN PUSH THE ACFT BACK AND UNHOOK THE TOW BAR AND REMOVE THE GEAR PIN. THE GND PERSONNEL DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE A GEAR PIN SO THE NEW CAPT ELECTED TO START THE R ENG AT THE GATE, THEN PUSH BACK. THE ACFT HAS A SET OF GEAR PINS IN THE COCKPIT, SO THE PIN USED WAS FROM THE ACFT. AFTER PUSHBACK, THE PIN WOULD BE HANDED BACK TO THE COCKPIT THROUGH THE L WINDOW. THEN THE L ENG WAS STARTED. WE FINISHED BOTH THE CHKLISTS FOR ENG START AND PUSHBACK, THEN CONTINUED ON WITH THE TAXI CHKLIST. NORMAL OPS FROM THIS POINT ON FOR AN UNEVENTFUL FLT. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE STARTED AND STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF BOTH THE START ENG AND PUSHBACK CHKLISTS. THE FAA FROWNS ON THIS I KNOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.