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On initial contact with dtw approach, an A320 crew was told to expect vector for a runway 21L approach. Crew requested runway 21R but were told runway 21L. On final, crew lined up with runway 21L and were sent around for not being lined up for runway 21R.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 426070 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199901 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 426070 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 426165 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
On polar arrival to dtw we were given vectors for runway 21L. We had planned and briefed runway 21R, as that would be standard for arrs from west. When we received vectors for runway 21L, we questioned the controller and he again said runway 21L. We rebriefed and programmed for runway 21L. When we xferred to the final controller, he gave a vector to intercept final and advised us to maintain 3000 ft and 170 KTS cleared for the approach. This new heading pointed us at nesbi fix on final and the correct altitude for nesbi is 3000 ft. The first controller had us on a heading for robbi fix and told us to maintain 5000 ft till robbi and intercept runway 21L. The first officer replied to the final controller, 3000 ft, 170 KTS, and cleared for the approach. It is not unusual for dtw to vector you for the opposite runway. They do it for flow control. However, many times the coordination breaks down and what happened to us is not unusual. On final we noticed we were very close to the traffic ahead of us on final and at the same altitude. As we started to question this, the final controller told us to turn to 190 degrees and intercept. Then he said, 240 degree heading to intercept. Before we could start the turn, he gave us a heading of 090 degrees and stated we had been cleared for runway 21R. Both the first officer and I agree that we were always cleared for runway 21L and there was a breakdown in communication between the 2 controllers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH DTW APCH, AN A320 CREW WAS TOLD TO EXPECT VECTOR FOR A RWY 21L APCH. CREW REQUESTED RWY 21R BUT WERE TOLD RWY 21L. ON FINAL, CREW LINED UP WITH RWY 21L AND WERE SENT AROUND FOR NOT BEING LINED UP FOR RWY 21R.
Narrative: ON POLAR ARR TO DTW WE WERE GIVEN VECTORS FOR RWY 21L. WE HAD PLANNED AND BRIEFED RWY 21R, AS THAT WOULD BE STANDARD FOR ARRS FROM W. WHEN WE RECEIVED VECTORS FOR RWY 21L, WE QUESTIONED THE CTLR AND HE AGAIN SAID RWY 21L. WE REBRIEFED AND PROGRAMMED FOR RWY 21L. WHEN WE XFERRED TO THE FINAL CTLR, HE GAVE A VECTOR TO INTERCEPT FINAL AND ADVISED US TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT AND 170 KTS CLRED FOR THE APCH. THIS NEW HDG POINTED US AT NESBI FIX ON FINAL AND THE CORRECT ALT FOR NESBI IS 3000 FT. THE FIRST CTLR HAD US ON A HDG FOR ROBBI FIX AND TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 5000 FT TILL ROBBI AND INTERCEPT RWY 21L. THE FO REPLIED TO THE FINAL CTLR, 3000 FT, 170 KTS, AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR DTW TO VECTOR YOU FOR THE OPPOSITE RWY. THEY DO IT FOR FLOW CTL. HOWEVER, MANY TIMES THE COORD BREAKS DOWN AND WHAT HAPPENED TO US IS NOT UNUSUAL. ON FINAL WE NOTICED WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO THE TFC AHEAD OF US ON FINAL AND AT THE SAME ALT. AS WE STARTED TO QUESTION THIS, THE FINAL CTLR TOLD US TO TURN TO 190 DEGS AND INTERCEPT. THEN HE SAID, 240 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT. BEFORE WE COULD START THE TURN, HE GAVE US A HDG OF 090 DEGS AND STATED WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR RWY 21R. BOTH THE FO AND I AGREE THAT WE WERE ALWAYS CLRED FOR RWY 21L AND THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN IN COM BTWN THE 2 CTLRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.