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Attributes | |
ACN | 429224 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dpa.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dpa.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Duchess 76 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 1l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dpa.tower |
Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : dpa |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 45 |
ASRS Report | 429224 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
After receiving radar vectors from chicago approach (133.5 MHZ). We were cleared for a practice ILS 1L approach at dpa. When the tower was contacted, we were told to report the OM inbound. Upon arriving at the fix, my student reported the marker to the tower with no response from the busy local controller. At the next possible chance (at least 1 min), I repeated our report to ensure the controller knew our location. At this time the controller acknowledged us and told us we were #2 behind a cessna on base leg. I immediately looked for and located the traffic at 100 ft above us and at 1500 ft in front of us with the gap decreasing. (Estimated 30 KTS closure rate.) because the aircraft in question was above us, I elected to deviate course rather than climb for a go around. I instructed my student to begin an immediate right turn and reported we were executing a 360 degree turn for spacing, at which time the controller told us we could not do this without his permission (obviously forgetting that collision avoidance ultimately is my responsibility). I informed the controller that we needed to take immediate action for collision avoidance, but the controller seemed unsympathetic and angry to the point of dissuading us from any further approachs on this day. Contributing factors were frequency congestion, the controller's failure to notify us of traffic until it was too late, the traffic coming from the left (not my side with student under hood), and the decision of the controller to sequence slow traffic in front of faster traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPT FROM A FLT INSTRUCTOR IN AN SMA WITH A STUDENT ON ILS APCH, UNDER THE HOOD. WHEN RPTING THE OM, THERE WAS NO TWR RESPONSE. WHEN NEXT MAKING CONTACT THEY WERE CLRED AS #2 ON THE APCH. THE ACFT AHEAD WAS SLOWER AND THERE WAS A RAPID CLOSURE RATE. INSTRUCTOR ELECTED TO MAKE A 360 DEG TURN SINCE HE COULD NOT VERY WELL CLB ABOVE FOR A GAR. ON INFORMING THE CTLR, HE WAS TOLD HE COULD NOT DO THAT.
Narrative: AFTER RECEIVING RADAR VECTORS FROM CHICAGO APCH (133.5 MHZ). WE WERE CLRED FOR A PRACTICE ILS 1L APCH AT DPA. WHEN THE TWR WAS CONTACTED, WE WERE TOLD TO RPT THE OM INBOUND. UPON ARRIVING AT THE FIX, MY STUDENT RPTED THE MARKER TO THE TWR WITH NO RESPONSE FROM THE BUSY LCL CTLR. AT THE NEXT POSSIBLE CHANCE (AT LEAST 1 MIN), I REPEATED OUR RPT TO ENSURE THE CTLR KNEW OUR LOCATION. AT THIS TIME THE CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED US AND TOLD US WE WERE #2 BEHIND A CESSNA ON BASE LEG. I IMMEDIATELY LOOKED FOR AND LOCATED THE TFC AT 100 FT ABOVE US AND AT 1500 FT IN FRONT OF US WITH THE GAP DECREASING. (ESTIMATED 30 KTS CLOSURE RATE.) BECAUSE THE ACFT IN QUESTION WAS ABOVE US, I ELECTED TO DEVIATE COURSE RATHER THAN CLB FOR A GAR. I INSTRUCTED MY STUDENT TO BEGIN AN IMMEDIATE R TURN AND RPTED WE WERE EXECUTING A 360 DEG TURN FOR SPACING, AT WHICH TIME THE CTLR TOLD US WE COULD NOT DO THIS WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION (OBVIOUSLY FORGETTING THAT COLLISION AVOIDANCE ULTIMATELY IS MY RESPONSIBILITY). I INFORMED THE CTLR THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION FOR COLLISION AVOIDANCE, BUT THE CTLR SEEMED UNSYMPATHETIC AND ANGRY TO THE POINT OF DISSUADING US FROM ANY FURTHER APCHS ON THIS DAY. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE FREQ CONGESTION, THE CTLR'S FAILURE TO NOTIFY US OF TFC UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE, THE TFC COMING FROM THE L (NOT MY SIDE WITH STUDENT UNDER HOOD), AND THE DECISION OF THE CTLR TO SEQUENCE SLOW TFC IN FRONT OF FASTER TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.