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Attributes | |
ACN | 429755 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jhm.airport |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | AS 350 Astar/Ecureuil |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 2750 flight time type : 975 |
ASRS Report | 429.755 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : (unicom) 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon leaving an area known as kamalo, I radioed kapalua unicom with my intentions to cross from kamalo to blackrock at 1000 ft. I was at the time flying an a5350b2 helicopter and the WX was VMC, with unlimited ceiling, and virtually unrestr visibility. Approximately 1/2 to 1 mi offshore of blackrock, I was informed by kapalua unicom that there was a dash 8 behind me. I initially banked the aircraft to the left and when I could not establish a visual with the dash 8 I banked the helicopter back to the right, back to my original intended course which was to be 1/2 mi offshore and sbound towards lahaina. At this time, I saw the dash 8 approximately 300 ft behind me and 300 ft above me. The pilot of the dash 8 was saying 'get down, go down' on the radio, which I did. I continued on towards lahaina and heard the pilot of the dash 8 say 'that was close' and then asked kapalua 'what was the call sign of that helicopter?' I believe a possible contributing factor to this incident may have been misinfo given to the dash 8 pilot. I believe he may have been told that a helicopter was crossing kamalu to lahaina when in fact I had said kamalo to blackrock. Also, other xmissions on the frequency kept me from updating my position and intentions. After the incident, something was said by kapalua requesting that if 360 degree turns were to be performed, that I need to let them know. No 360 degree turns were performed. Only the initial left bank to try to locate the overtaking aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN AS350 HELI AND A DEHAVILLAND DASH 8 AT 1000 FT VFR OFF THE COAST OF THE ISLAND OF MAUI, HI. THE HELI DSNDED AND TURNED TO SIGHT THE DASH 8 WHICH WAS RPTED BY UNICOM TO BE ABOVE AND BEHIND RPTR.
Narrative: UPON LEAVING AN AREA KNOWN AS KAMALO, I RADIOED KAPALUA UNICOM WITH MY INTENTIONS TO CROSS FROM KAMALO TO BLACKROCK AT 1000 FT. I WAS AT THE TIME FLYING AN A5350B2 HELI AND THE WX WAS VMC, WITH UNLIMITED CEILING, AND VIRTUALLY UNRESTR VISIBILITY. APPROX 1/2 TO 1 MI OFFSHORE OF BLACKROCK, I WAS INFORMED BY KAPALUA UNICOM THAT THERE WAS A DASH 8 BEHIND ME. I INITIALLY BANKED THE ACFT TO THE L AND WHEN I COULD NOT ESTABLISH A VISUAL WITH THE DASH 8 I BANKED THE HELI BACK TO THE R, BACK TO MY ORIGINAL INTENDED COURSE WHICH WAS TO BE 1/2 MI OFFSHORE AND SBOUND TOWARDS LAHAINA. AT THIS TIME, I SAW THE DASH 8 APPROX 300 FT BEHIND ME AND 300 FT ABOVE ME. THE PLT OF THE DASH 8 WAS SAYING 'GET DOWN, GO DOWN' ON THE RADIO, WHICH I DID. I CONTINUED ON TOWARDS LAHAINA AND HEARD THE PLT OF THE DASH 8 SAY 'THAT WAS CLOSE' AND THEN ASKED KAPALUA 'WHAT WAS THE CALL SIGN OF THAT HELI?' I BELIEVE A POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS INCIDENT MAY HAVE BEEN MISINFO GIVEN TO THE DASH 8 PLT. I BELIEVE HE MAY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT A HELI WAS XING KAMALU TO LAHAINA WHEN IN FACT I HAD SAID KAMALO TO BLACKROCK. ALSO, OTHER XMISSIONS ON THE FREQ KEPT ME FROM UPDATING MY POS AND INTENTIONS. AFTER THE INCIDENT, SOMETHING WAS SAID BY KAPALUA REQUESTING THAT IF 360 DEG TURNS WERE TO BE PERFORMED, THAT I NEED TO LET THEM KNOW. NO 360 DEG TURNS WERE PERFORMED. ONLY THE INITIAL L BANK TO TRY TO LOCATE THE OVERTAKING ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.