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Air carrier pilot suggests ATC phraseology change and pilot controller usage.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 430009 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199903 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 430009 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
This is not a report of an incident. It is a suggestion about how to reduce altdevs. Have controllers issue vectors in headings which end in a 5 (or any digit other than 0, whenever possible) instead of today's common practice of most vectors ending in a zero. This would help eliminate the confusion between flight levels and headings. For example: today's clearance to FL270 and a heading of 250 is confusion looking for a place to happen. Under my suggestion, the clearance would be to FL270 and a heading of either 245 degrees, 255 degrees, 249 degrees, or 251 degrees. Much less potential for confusion and error. Several pilots I have talked with liked the idea and the FAA poi for a freighter line suggested I send this to you.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT SUGGESTS ATC PHRASEOLOGY CHANGE AND PLT CTLR USAGE.
Narrative: THIS IS NOT A RPT OF AN INCIDENT. IT IS A SUGGESTION ABOUT HOW TO REDUCE ALTDEVS. HAVE CTLRS ISSUE VECTORS IN HDGS WHICH END IN A 5 (OR ANY DIGIT OTHER THAN 0, WHENEVER POSSIBLE) INSTEAD OF TODAY'S COMMON PRACTICE OF MOST VECTORS ENDING IN A ZERO. THIS WOULD HELP ELIMINATE THE CONFUSION BTWN FLT LEVELS AND HDGS. FOR EXAMPLE: TODAY'S CLRNC TO FL270 AND A HDG OF 250 IS CONFUSION LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HAPPEN. UNDER MY SUGGESTION, THE CLRNC WOULD BE TO FL270 AND A HDG OF EITHER 245 DEGS, 255 DEGS, 249 DEGS, OR 251 DEGS. MUCH LESS POTENTIAL FOR CONFUSION AND ERROR. SEVERAL PLTS I HAVE TALKED WITH LIKED THE IDEA AND THE FAA POI FOR A FREIGHTER LINE SUGGESTED I SEND THIS TO YOU.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.