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Attributes | |
ACN | 430208 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ztl.artcc |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc tower : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level cruise : enroute altitude change |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 430208 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : stick shaker other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was riding jump seat from home, commuting to work. I am a captain, qualified in the same equipment. I noted to the captain (PF) that I thought the thrust setting was low and questioned the aircraft ability to make the climb to FL350. I also questioned the low indicated airspeed. Both concerns were ignored by captain. The aircraft eventually arrived at FL350. The autoplt tried to maintain altitude, but airspeed decayed and the autoplt disconnected. While trying to maintain altitude, the captain allowed the airspeed to decay to the point of stick shaker. At this time I felt the need to yell repeatedly, 'push it over.' stall recovery was eventually started with a loss of altitude of 4000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING CL65 STALLED THEIR ACFT AFTER LEVELOFF AT FL350.
Narrative: I WAS RIDING JUMP SEAT FROM HOME, COMMUTING TO WORK. I AM A CAPT, QUALIFIED IN THE SAME EQUIP. I NOTED TO THE CAPT (PF) THAT I THOUGHT THE THRUST SETTING WAS LOW AND QUESTIONED THE ACFT ABILITY TO MAKE THE CLB TO FL350. I ALSO QUESTIONED THE LOW INDICATED AIRSPD. BOTH CONCERNS WERE IGNORED BY CAPT. THE ACFT EVENTUALLY ARRIVED AT FL350. THE AUTOPLT TRIED TO MAINTAIN ALT, BUT AIRSPD DECAYED AND THE AUTOPLT DISCONNECTED. WHILE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ALT, THE CAPT ALLOWED THE AIRSPD TO DECAY TO THE POINT OF STICK SHAKER. AT THIS TIME I FELT THE NEED TO YELL REPEATEDLY, 'PUSH IT OVER.' STALL RECOVERY WAS EVENTUALLY STARTED WITH A LOSS OF ALT OF 4000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.