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Attributes | |
ACN | 431332 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : jli.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v458.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 431332 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
On mar/xa/99 I departed crq on an IFR flight plan to elp. The WX at departure was clear with light winds right down the runway and flight level winds (9000 ft) were forecast to be around 25 KTS. There were 2 of us in the aircraft, both experienced pilots with about 5000 hours between us. We were flying a PA44 (piper seminole), a light twin engine piston aircraft. On climb out, we heard an intermittent rattling noise. Neither could determine from where the noise was coming except we were fairly certain that it was not coming from the engines. The only thing that we were able to correlate was that the rattle was more pronounced and noticeable whenever the flight controls were repositioned. Prior to reaching the first NAVAID (jli, julian), we agreed that the prudent thing to do was to land and check out the noise. Prior to being able to cancel IFR with ZLA (because of radio traffic) the aircraft became uncontrollable. The aircraft pitched up about 15 degrees and began bleeding airspeed. Even with the application of full power, our rate of descent exceeded 1000 FPM and pitch control seemed to not make any difference as to the aircraft's attitude. Our immediate thought was that the rattle we had heard had been a fraying flight control cable and that it had just severed. I declared an emergency and we began an immediate turn towards borrego springs airport. Descending through approximately 5500 ft MSL, we regained longitudinal control of the aircraft and began second-guessing our previous prognosis of a flight control problem. Nevertheless, we decided that we must land to check out the airplane. We then thought that we maybe did not have a flight control problem, but we still were not certain. Fighting our way down to an extended final approach setup for runway 25 at borrego springs, I opted to not land there. The turbulence was severe in the valley and when pointed down the runway, the sun was at such an angle that the runway environment was totally obscured. We turned wnw towards salton sea but chose to continue towards trm instead because of the longer runway and the likelihood of having maintenance available at the field. We made an uneventful landing at trm just before sunset. Although mostly convinced that there had in fact been no flight control problem, we weren't totally convinced. We still did not know of the source of the 'rattle.' upon landing, an a&P inspected the flight controls, especially the horizontal stabilizer and associated cabling, and could find no discrepancies with the aircraft. Subsequent to the mechanic's inspection, we conducted a thorough postflt inspection of the aircraft and could determine nothing as the source of the rattle or any aircraft discrepancy. Even considering that the mechanic could find nothing wrong with the aircraft, we elected to not proceed that night. Should we 'rediscover' a problem in-flight, we would much prefer for it to happen during daylight and VMC. The next morning, we departed trm and 3 legs later, recovered uneventfully at pns. During the 3 flts home, the 'rattle' noise never recurred. In hindsight, it was most likely mountain wave that caused the 'uncontrollable' condition. Based on the WX report that I had received, I did not anticipate mountain wave. Had that occurred by itself without the associated 'rattling,' we may not have concluded that the flight controls were the issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A PIPER PA44, SEMINOLE, DURING AN IFR FLT IN VFR CONDITIONS, DECLARED AN EMER AND DSNDED TO ANOTHER ARPT FOR LNDG DUE TO HEARING RATTLING NOISES FROM THE ACFT, AND THE MOMENTARY LACK OF BEING ABLE TO CTL THE ACFT PITCH ATTITUDE CAUSING HIM TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A SERIOUS MALFUNCTION IN THE ACFT FLT CTL SYS.
Narrative: ON MAR/XA/99 I DEPARTED CRQ ON AN IFR FLT PLAN TO ELP. THE WX AT DEP WAS CLR WITH LIGHT WINDS RIGHT DOWN THE RWY AND FLT LEVEL WINDS (9000 FT) WERE FORECAST TO BE AROUND 25 KTS. THERE WERE 2 OF US IN THE ACFT, BOTH EXPERIENCED PLTS WITH ABOUT 5000 HRS BTWN US. WE WERE FLYING A PA44 (PIPER SEMINOLE), A LIGHT TWIN ENG PISTON ACFT. ON CLBOUT, WE HEARD AN INTERMITTENT RATTLING NOISE. NEITHER COULD DETERMINE FROM WHERE THE NOISE WAS COMING EXCEPT WE WERE FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT IT WAS NOT COMING FROM THE ENGS. THE ONLY THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CORRELATE WAS THAT THE RATTLE WAS MORE PRONOUNCED AND NOTICEABLE WHENEVER THE FLT CTLS WERE REPOSITIONED. PRIOR TO REACHING THE FIRST NAVAID (JLI, JULIAN), WE AGREED THAT THE PRUDENT THING TO DO WAS TO LAND AND CHK OUT THE NOISE. PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO CANCEL IFR WITH ZLA (BECAUSE OF RADIO TFC) THE ACFT BECAME UNCTLABLE. THE ACFT PITCHED UP ABOUT 15 DEGS AND BEGAN BLEEDING AIRSPD. EVEN WITH THE APPLICATION OF FULL PWR, OUR RATE OF DSCNT EXCEEDED 1000 FPM AND PITCH CTL SEEMED TO NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AS TO THE ACFT'S ATTITUDE. OUR IMMEDIATE THOUGHT WAS THAT THE RATTLE WE HAD HEARD HAD BEEN A FRAYING FLT CTL CABLE AND THAT IT HAD JUST SEVERED. I DECLARED AN EMER AND WE BEGAN AN IMMEDIATE TURN TOWARDS BORREGO SPRINGS ARPT. DSNDING THROUGH APPROX 5500 FT MSL, WE REGAINED LONGITUDINAL CTL OF THE ACFT AND BEGAN SECOND-GUESSING OUR PREVIOUS PROGNOSIS OF A FLT CTL PROB. NEVERTHELESS, WE DECIDED THAT WE MUST LAND TO CHK OUT THE AIRPLANE. WE THEN THOUGHT THAT WE MAYBE DID NOT HAVE A FLT CTL PROB, BUT WE STILL WERE NOT CERTAIN. FIGHTING OUR WAY DOWN TO AN EXTENDED FINAL APCH SETUP FOR RWY 25 AT BORREGO SPRINGS, I OPTED TO NOT LAND THERE. THE TURB WAS SEVERE IN THE VALLEY AND WHEN POINTED DOWN THE RWY, THE SUN WAS AT SUCH AN ANGLE THAT THE RWY ENVIRONMENT WAS TOTALLY OBSCURED. WE TURNED WNW TOWARDS SALTON SEA BUT CHOSE TO CONTINUE TOWARDS TRM INSTEAD BECAUSE OF THE LONGER RWY AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF HAVING MAINT AVAILABLE AT THE FIELD. WE MADE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG AT TRM JUST BEFORE SUNSET. ALTHOUGH MOSTLY CONVINCED THAT THERE HAD IN FACT BEEN NO FLT CTL PROB, WE WEREN'T TOTALLY CONVINCED. WE STILL DID NOT KNOW OF THE SOURCE OF THE 'RATTLE.' UPON LNDG, AN A&P INSPECTED THE FLT CTLS, ESPECIALLY THE HORIZ STABILIZER AND ASSOCIATED CABLING, AND COULD FIND NO DISCREPANCIES WITH THE ACFT. SUBSEQUENT TO THE MECH'S INSPECTION, WE CONDUCTED A THOROUGH POSTFLT INSPECTION OF THE ACFT AND COULD DETERMINE NOTHING AS THE SOURCE OF THE RATTLE OR ANY ACFT DISCREPANCY. EVEN CONSIDERING THAT THE MECH COULD FIND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE ACFT, WE ELECTED TO NOT PROCEED THAT NIGHT. SHOULD WE 'REDISCOVER' A PROB INFLT, WE WOULD MUCH PREFER FOR IT TO HAPPEN DURING DAYLIGHT AND VMC. THE NEXT MORNING, WE DEPARTED TRM AND 3 LEGS LATER, RECOVERED UNEVENTFULLY AT PNS. DURING THE 3 FLTS HOME, THE 'RATTLE' NOISE NEVER RECURRED. IN HINDSIGHT, IT WAS MOST LIKELY MOUNTAIN WAVE THAT CAUSED THE 'UNCTLABLE' CONDITION. BASED ON THE WX RPT THAT I HAD RECEIVED, I DID NOT ANTICIPATE MOUNTAIN WAVE. HAD THAT OCCURRED BY ITSELF WITHOUT THE ASSOCIATED 'RATTLING,' WE MAY NOT HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THE FLT CTLS WERE THE ISSUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.