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Attributes | |
ACN | 431898 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure sid : loupe nine |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 170 |
ASRS Report | 431898 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The crew had just finished 6 hours 8 mins of charter flight into an unfamiliar airport, sjc. We had yet a 4 hour 30 min ferry from sjc to xyz late that evening. It was my leg. After takeoff, we were executing the loupe 9 departure procedure. During the climb, he cleared us to the sjc VOR and to join the departure procedure as published. Because the controller cleared us to 17000 ft, we ignored the crossing restr at sjc VOR at 12000 ft. Therefore, we continued our climb higher than 12000 ft prior to reaching sjc VOR. Later, the controller 'queried' us on the restr. There was no incident or conflict with any other aircraft. I believe the mistake resulted in a combination of being slightly fatigued, and confusion in the communication between the controller and the crew. Corrective action may have taken place on both sides due to the fact we were unfamiliar with the airport, and our call sign was unfamiliar to the controller. If the controller would have stated 'cross sjc VOR at 12000 ft then maintain 17000 ft,' there would have been no confusion. Second, it was part our responsibility to query ATC rather than assume during a confusing clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC IGNORES XING RESTR ON DEP FROM SJC.
Narrative: THE CREW HAD JUST FINISHED 6 HRS 8 MINS OF CHARTER FLT INTO AN UNFAMILIAR ARPT, SJC. WE HAD YET A 4 HR 30 MIN FERRY FROM SJC TO XYZ LATE THAT EVENING. IT WAS MY LEG. AFTER TKOF, WE WERE EXECUTING THE LOUPE 9 DEP PROC. DURING THE CLB, HE CLRED US TO THE SJC VOR AND TO JOIN THE DEP PROC AS PUBLISHED. BECAUSE THE CTLR CLRED US TO 17000 FT, WE IGNORED THE XING RESTR AT SJC VOR AT 12000 FT. THEREFORE, WE CONTINUED OUR CLB HIGHER THAN 12000 FT PRIOR TO REACHING SJC VOR. LATER, THE CTLR 'QUERIED' US ON THE RESTR. THERE WAS NO INCIDENT OR CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER ACFT. I BELIEVE THE MISTAKE RESULTED IN A COMBINATION OF BEING SLIGHTLY FATIGUED, AND CONFUSION IN THE COM BTWN THE CTLR AND THE CREW. CORRECTIVE ACTION MAY HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON BOTH SIDES DUE TO THE FACT WE WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ARPT, AND OUR CALL SIGN WAS UNFAMILIAR TO THE CTLR. IF THE CTLR WOULD HAVE STATED 'CROSS SJC VOR AT 12000 FT THEN MAINTAIN 17000 FT,' THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO CONFUSION. SECOND, IT WAS PART OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO QUERY ATC RATHER THAN ASSUME DURING A CONFUSING CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.