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A DC9 captain vents his frustration regarding the additional frequencys added to atl tower for wbound departures utilizing runways 26L&right and runways 27L&right. He claims it interfered with his memorizing the ground and tower frequencys in association with each other.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 432080 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199903 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 432080 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : atl.tower |
Narrative:
I've had it with FAA disregarding the user (the pilots). For yrs I remember the ground/tower frequencys at atl by the easy association of little together/big together, now the FAA 121.75 and 119.1, 121.9 and 119.5 spelling in charge put in new frequencys in atl tower 125.32 and 123.85 which doesn't follow the other logic. For yrs atl called east/outer and F/inner when the first XXXX FAA renamed apron, ramp, inner, outer, something different at each XXXX airport. Rather than use 'oscar' for 'outer' or 'india' for 'inner' some bullshit FAA reasoning was used. I'm sick of the FAA not including pilots in decisions that directly affect the pilots, giving rise to excessive communication talk and miscoms.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC9 CAPT VENTS HIS FRUSTRATION REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL FREQS ADDED TO ATL TWR FOR WBOUND DEPS UTILIZING RWYS 26L&R AND RWYS 27L&R. HE CLAIMS IT INTERFERED WITH HIS MEMORIZING THE GND AND TWR FREQS IN ASSOCIATION WITH EACH OTHER.
Narrative: I'VE HAD IT WITH FAA DISREGARDING THE USER (THE PLTS). FOR YRS I REMEMBER THE GND/TWR FREQS AT ATL BY THE EASY ASSOCIATION OF LITTLE TOGETHER/BIG TOGETHER, NOW THE FAA 121.75 AND 119.1, 121.9 AND 119.5 SPELLING IN CHARGE PUT IN NEW FREQS IN ATL TWR 125.32 AND 123.85 WHICH DOESN'T FOLLOW THE OTHER LOGIC. FOR YRS ATL CALLED E/OUTER AND F/INNER WHEN THE FIRST XXXX FAA RENAMED APRON, RAMP, INNER, OUTER, SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT EACH XXXX ARPT. RATHER THAN USE 'OSCAR' FOR 'OUTER' OR 'INDIA' FOR 'INNER' SOME BULLSHIT FAA REASONING WAS USED. I'M SICK OF THE FAA NOT INCLUDING PLTS IN DECISIONS THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT THE PLTS, GIVING RISE TO EXCESSIVE COM TALK AND MISCOMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.