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Flight crew of a dassault falcon forgot speed restr during descent resulting in reducing speed 10 KTS after the fix. There was no comment from ATC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 432590 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : iiu.vortac |
| State Reference | KY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 20G/20GF/ Mysterre Falcon 200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 432590 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The co-captain was flying from the left seat. We were on a descent for landing at sdf and given a clearance to cross 30 NM northwest of maize intersection at 11000 ft and 250 KTS. We programmed the FMS for the descent and continued down to an assigned altitude of 11000 ft. We were talking about the upcoming purchase of a new plane for the company when I noticed that we were about 20 mi from maize intersection at 11000 ft but we were still going 350 KIAS. I told the PF that we were supposed to be at 250 KTS. He said that he forgot, and immediately reduced his speed to 250 KTS. There were no other aircraft in our area and nothing showing up on TCASII. My suggestion is to keep the office out of the cockpit once you're straight out of altitude for the airport and keep your mind on the plane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A DASSAULT FALCON FORGOT SPD RESTR DURING DSCNT RESULTING IN REDUCING SPD 10 KTS AFTER THE FIX. THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM ATC.
Narrative: THE CO-CAPT WAS FLYING FROM THE L SEAT. WE WERE ON A DSCNT FOR LNDG AT SDF AND GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS 30 NM NW OF MAIZE INTXN AT 11000 FT AND 250 KTS. WE PROGRAMMED THE FMS FOR THE DSCNT AND CONTINUED DOWN TO AN ASSIGNED ALT OF 11000 FT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UPCOMING PURCHASE OF A NEW PLANE FOR THE COMPANY WHEN I NOTICED THAT WE WERE ABOUT 20 MI FROM MAIZE INTXN AT 11000 FT BUT WE WERE STILL GOING 350 KIAS. I TOLD THE PF THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 250 KTS. HE SAID THAT HE FORGOT, AND IMMEDIATELY REDUCED HIS SPD TO 250 KTS. THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT IN OUR AREA AND NOTHING SHOWING UP ON TCASII. MY SUGGESTION IS TO KEEP THE OFFICE OUT OF THE COCKPIT ONCE YOU'RE STRAIGHT OUT OF ALT FOR THE ARPT AND KEEP YOUR MIND ON THE PLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.