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Attributes | |
ACN | 436330 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 436330 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 435028 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Situations | |
Publication | FLT OPS BULLETIN |
Narrative:
Our scheduled departure time was XA40 local. After discovering a mechanical discrepancy and having the problem attended to, we left the gate at XB32 local. Since our release was good for 1 hour after scheduled departure, we did not obtain an amended release from flight control to update our release time. Upon arriving in reno and checking my mailbox, I received flight operations bulletin X. In this bulletin, it stated that, all release times would be listed 10 mins prior to scheduled departure time. Therefore, our release would have been listed as XA30 local, not XA40, and we left the gate at XB32 local, exceeding the release validity by 2 mins.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DEPARTS ORD AFTER COMPANY RELEASE TIME EXPIRED.
Narrative: OUR SCHEDULED DEP TIME WAS XA40 LCL. AFTER DISCOVERING A MECHANICAL DISCREPANCY AND HAVING THE PROB ATTENDED TO, WE LEFT THE GATE AT XB32 LCL. SINCE OUR RELEASE WAS GOOD FOR 1 HR AFTER SCHEDULED DEP, WE DID NOT OBTAIN AN AMENDED RELEASE FROM FLT CTL TO UPDATE OUR RELEASE TIME. UPON ARRIVING IN RENO AND CHKING MY MAILBOX, I RECEIVED FLT OPS BULLETIN X. IN THIS BULLETIN, IT STATED THAT, ALL RELEASE TIMES WOULD BE LISTED 10 MINS PRIOR TO SCHEDULED DEP TIME. THEREFORE, OUR RELEASE WOULD HAVE BEEN LISTED AS XA30 LCL, NOT XA40, AND WE LEFT THE GATE AT XB32 LCL, EXCEEDING THE RELEASE VALIDITY BY 2 MINS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.