A private pilot and his CFI in a PA28-200 lands short of the runway at L52, ca.

Attributes
ACN	436391
Time
Date	199905
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : l52.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	landing : roll
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	436391
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 8 flight time total : 850 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	436392
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Airport
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Base to final turn on short field approach. Sun blinded both pilots at low level. Landed short of runway. Nose gear buckled and had 1 propeller blade strike. No FARS violated. Sunset/dusk definitely a factor as all visual contact with ground and runway was lost in the last several seconds of flight. Touchdown approximately 70 mph. Emergency shutdown procedures were followed after stop. No injuries, no substantial damage (per far 830). Aircraft was wheeled off the runway and left in tie-down area. Leading cause: loss of ground contact (vision) due to sun.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A PVT PLT AND HIS CFI IN A PA28-200 LANDS SHORT OF THE RWY AT L52, CA.

Narrative: BASE TO FINAL TURN ON SHORT FIELD APCH. SUN BLINDED BOTH PLTS AT LOW LEVEL. LANDED SHORT OF RWY. NOSE GEAR BUCKLED AND HAD 1 PROP BLADE STRIKE. NO FARS VIOLATED. SUNSET/DUSK DEFINITELY A FACTOR AS ALL VISUAL CONTACT WITH GND AND RWY WAS LOST IN THE LAST SEVERAL SECONDS OF FLT. TOUCHDOWN APPROX 70 MPH. EMER SHUTDOWN PROCS WERE FOLLOWED AFTER STOP. NO INJURIES, NO SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE (PER FAR 830). ACFT WAS WHEELED OFF THE RWY AND LEFT IN TIE-DOWN AREA. LEADING CAUSE: LOSS OF GND CONTACT (VISION) DUE TO SUN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.