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A B727 flight crew reviewed the MEL and determined the aircraft met the in-flight conditions. Dispatch ordered the aircraft back to departure station to clear MEL item.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 438110 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199905 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : m98.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 750 |
| ASRS Report | 438110 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 438108 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
| Independent Detector | other other : disp 5 |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Aircraft arrived with MEL on #2 engine anti-ice valve. Maintenance deferred at rno 3 hours earlier. Discussed MEL with captain and the fact that flight into known icing was prohibited. WX at destination for time of arrival (destination mdw) was 3500 ft overcast, 12 degrees C temperature. Came to conclusion that no icing condition would exist. Took off and on departure dispatch ACARS message asking if MEL was a release. Captain had failed to get MEL on release. Dispatch said we were flying into known icing conditions and need to return to gate (they thought we were still on the ground). Returned to msp uneventfully. Valve was fixed and took off and landed at mdw. No icing condition encountered at any time either at msp or mdw.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 FLC REVIEWED THE MEL AND DETERMINED THE ACFT MET THE INFLT CONDITIONS. DISPATCH ORDERED THE ACFT BACK TO DEP STATION TO CLR MEL ITEM.
Narrative: ACFT ARRIVED WITH MEL ON #2 ENG ANTI-ICE VALVE. MAINT DEFERRED AT RNO 3 HRS EARLIER. DISCUSSED MEL WITH CAPT AND THE FACT THAT FLT INTO KNOWN ICING WAS PROHIBITED. WX AT DEST FOR TIME OF ARR (DEST MDW) WAS 3500 FT OVCST, 12 DEGS C TEMP. CAME TO CONCLUSION THAT NO ICING CONDITION WOULD EXIST. TOOK OFF AND ON DEP DISPATCH ACARS MESSAGE ASKING IF MEL WAS A RELEASE. CAPT HAD FAILED TO GET MEL ON RELEASE. DISPATCH SAID WE WERE FLYING INTO KNOWN ICING CONDITIONS AND NEED TO RETURN TO GATE (THEY THOUGHT WE WERE STILL ON THE GND). RETURNED TO MSP UNEVENTFULLY. VALVE WAS FIXED AND TOOK OFF AND LANDED AT MDW. NO ICING CONDITION ENCOUNTERED AT ANY TIME EITHER AT MSP OR MDW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.