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Attributes | |
ACN | 438176 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gso.tracon |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : gso.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : gso.triad 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 800 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 438176 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : automation overrode flight crew controller : issued advisory flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : gso.airport |
Airspace Structure | class d : gso.d |
Chart | airport : gso.airport sid : triad 2 |
Narrative:
On departure, FMS GPS dropped out causing some type of data entry error. FMS wouldn't respond correctly. Changing to VOR caused momentary lack of knowledge of immediate position. Clearance on departure was triad 2 departure, but no transition was given. Controller cleared us to a transition intersection and by the time we recognized the name so we could proceed, we were evidently in someone else's airspace where we shouldn't have been. We asked for an initial heading to go to this transition intersection but we were not given a heading. We were just cleared to jan VOR on course. When we were told to proceed to the transition intersection, we advised the controller we were having trouble navigating, which he must have realized because he asked us for our heading. If we had been given the transition with the SID it would have been easier to transition back to VOR navigation when our FMS was responding improperly. The SID called for vector to the radial. It would have been better if the controller would have given us a heading when he realized we weren't navigating properly. We usually back up the FMS with a VOR but we weren't given a transition to set up with.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW OF A CPR LEAR 31A MISREAD THE GSO TRIAD 2 SID WHICH RESULTED IN A TRACK DEV.
Narrative: ON DEP, FMS GPS DROPPED OUT CAUSING SOME TYPE OF DATA ENTRY ERROR. FMS WOULDN'T RESPOND CORRECTLY. CHANGING TO VOR CAUSED MOMENTARY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF IMMEDIATE POS. CLRNC ON DEP WAS TRIAD 2 DEP, BUT NO TRANSITION WAS GIVEN. CTLR CLRED US TO A TRANSITION INTXN AND BY THE TIME WE RECOGNIZED THE NAME SO WE COULD PROCEED, WE WERE EVIDENTLY IN SOMEONE ELSE'S AIRSPACE WHERE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. WE ASKED FOR AN INITIAL HDG TO GO TO THIS TRANSITION INTXN BUT WE WERE NOT GIVEN A HDG. WE WERE JUST CLRED TO JAN VOR ON COURSE. WHEN WE WERE TOLD TO PROCEED TO THE TRANSITION INTXN, WE ADVISED THE CTLR WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE NAVING, WHICH HE MUST HAVE REALIZED BECAUSE HE ASKED US FOR OUR HDG. IF WE HAD BEEN GIVEN THE TRANSITION WITH THE SID IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER TO TRANSITION BACK TO VOR NAV WHEN OUR FMS WAS RESPONDING IMPROPERLY. THE SID CALLED FOR VECTOR TO THE RADIAL. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THE CTLR WOULD HAVE GIVEN US A HDG WHEN HE REALIZED WE WEREN'T NAVING PROPERLY. WE USUALLY BACK UP THE FMS WITH A VOR BUT WE WEREN'T GIVEN A TRANSITION TO SET UP WITH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.