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Attributes | |
ACN | 439810 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : jst.vortac |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j152.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 439810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned airspace |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were holding on J152 at miroy, as published with 15 mi legs. While outbound a flight attendant came up to the cockpit and the captain who was flying started conversing with him. I was doing fuel computations to determine how long we could hold. When I looked up we had flown to 18 DME on the non-holding side of jst. I quickly pointed this out to the captain who then made a turn back toward the holding pattern. Because of slant range mileage we were probably not that far out of the holding pattern. I asked the controller (ZOB) if there was a problem and he replied, no.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A B737-200 EXCEEDED THE HOLDING FIX BOUNDARY DURING HOLDING DUE TO DISTR BY A CONVERSATION WITH A CABIN ATTENDANT.
Narrative: WE WERE HOLDING ON J152 AT MIROY, AS PUBLISHED WITH 15 MI LEGS. WHILE OUTBOUND A FLT ATTENDANT CAME UP TO THE COCKPIT AND THE CAPT WHO WAS FLYING STARTED CONVERSING WITH HIM. I WAS DOING FUEL COMPUTATIONS TO DETERMINE HOW LONG WE COULD HOLD. WHEN I LOOKED UP WE HAD FLOWN TO 18 DME ON THE NON-HOLDING SIDE OF JST. I QUICKLY POINTED THIS OUT TO THE CAPT WHO THEN MADE A TURN BACK TOWARD THE HOLDING PATTERN. BECAUSE OF SLANT RANGE MILEAGE WE WERE PROBABLY NOT THAT FAR OUT OF THE HOLDING PATTERN. I ASKED THE CTLR (ZOB) IF THERE WAS A PROB AND HE REPLIED, NO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.