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Attributes | |
ACN | 440050 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 440050 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | markings : cle.airport procedure or policy : cle.airport signage : cle.airport |
Narrative:
Aircraft just landed on runway 5R at cleveland. Another aircraft position and hold on runway 5L. We were instructed to cross runway 5R hold short runway 5L. We crossed runway 5R and crossed over the first set of 2 hold short lines thinking we would be clear of runway 5R and stopped short of the second set of hold short lines thinking we would be holding short of runway 5L. After setting the parking brake, we realized we had already crossed the runway 5L hold short line and we were on the active runway 5L with the other aircraft still in position. Then they were cleared for takeoff and we were cleared to position and hold. It is not possible to be clear of runway 5R and holding short of runway 5L at the same time. The signage is poor and should include flashing lights same as hold short for runway 5R. This was never a safety of flight issue, but it could have been.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BA32 CREW HAD RWY INCURSION AT CLE.
Narrative: ACFT JUST LANDED ON RWY 5R AT CLEVELAND. ANOTHER ACFT POS AND HOLD ON RWY 5L. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CROSS RWY 5R HOLD SHORT RWY 5L. WE CROSSED RWY 5R AND CROSSED OVER THE FIRST SET OF 2 HOLD SHORT LINES THINKING WE WOULD BE CLR OF RWY 5R AND STOPPED SHORT OF THE SECOND SET OF HOLD SHORT LINES THINKING WE WOULD BE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 5L. AFTER SETTING THE PARKING BRAKE, WE REALIZED WE HAD ALREADY CROSSED THE RWY 5L HOLD SHORT LINE AND WE WERE ON THE ACTIVE RWY 5L WITH THE OTHER ACFT STILL IN POS. THEN THEY WERE CLRED FOR TKOF AND WE WERE CLRED TO POS AND HOLD. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE CLR OF RWY 5R AND HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 5L AT THE SAME TIME. THE SIGNAGE IS POOR AND SHOULD INCLUDE FLASHING LIGHTS SAME AS HOLD SHORT FOR RWY 5R. THIS WAS NEVER A SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.