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Attributes | |
ACN | 440700 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 440700 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Location: mia. This was my first FMC mission. I had thoroughly reviewed the guidebook, checklist and flight manual beforehand. I had recurrent training in march and received no training whatsoever on this new and vastly different FMC. I still thought I was prepared enough to figure it out when I finally flew one. Boy was I wrong. It took us 90 mins just to be proficient enough to operate the system. We basically operated on manual in order to get off the ground in a somewhat reasonable amount of time, and used additional time airborne to figure out the navigation and other operational but less vital functions like ACARS. This is totally unsatisfactory. How can we operate like this? With our recent safety record, how much worse will we look if one of these aircraft gets bent while the crew was flailing around trying to learn an FMC that they never received hands-on training?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 RPTR INDICATES NO TRAINING ON NEW AND VASTLY DIFFERENT FMC.
Narrative: LOCATION: MIA. THIS WAS MY FIRST FMC MISSION. I HAD THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THE GUIDEBOOK, CHKLIST AND FLT MANUAL BEFOREHAND. I HAD RECURRENT TRAINING IN MARCH AND RECEIVED NO TRAINING WHATSOEVER ON THIS NEW AND VASTLY DIFFERENT FMC. I STILL THOUGHT I WAS PREPARED ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT OUT WHEN I FINALLY FLEW ONE. BOY WAS I WRONG. IT TOOK US 90 MINS JUST TO BE PROFICIENT ENOUGH TO OPERATE THE SYS. WE BASICALLY OPERATED ON MANUAL IN ORDER TO GET OFF THE GND IN A SOMEWHAT REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND USED ADDITIONAL TIME AIRBORNE TO FIGURE OUT THE NAV AND OTHER OPERATIONAL BUT LESS VITAL FUNCTIONS LIKE ACARS. THIS IS TOTALLY UNSATISFACTORY. HOW CAN WE OPERATE LIKE THIS? WITH OUR RECENT SAFETY RECORD, HOW MUCH WORSE WILL WE LOOK IF ONE OF THESE ACFT GETS BENT WHILE THE CREW WAS FLAILING AROUND TRYING TO LEARN AN FMC THAT THEY NEVER RECEIVED HANDS-ON TRAINING?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.