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Attributes | |
ACN | 440927 |
Time | |
Date | 199906 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 3te.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d21.tracon |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d21.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : mizar 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 850 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 440927 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : d21.tracon |
Narrative:
During descent from dropping skydivers at 11000 ft MSL over the 3TE airport (tecumseh, mi), I was heading east and was advised of air carrier Y DC9 2-3 mi at my 4 O'clock position, also descending from 11000 ft. As that position was hidden by my wing, I began a turn to south, as the controller indicated that the DC9 would pass well in front of me on that heading. The DC9 was on a different approach frequency. After turning I was advised of the DC9 at 1 mi ahead and 500 ft below me, but in fact, I visually acquired it straight ahead and at my altitude. The DC9 was heading east and in a right bank, turning away from me. I immediately began a steep left turn away to the north, and advised approach that I had the traffic in sight. We separated and the traffic was no longer a factor. As I observed the DC9 in a climbing right turn, I assume that he may have had a TCASII RA, but as I did not hear any conversation between the DC9 and his controller, I am not sure. Contributing factors: references: L23 en route chart, panel C ec-1 approach charts. Cruxx 4 and mizar 2 stars. Yip traffic on cruxx 4 arrival and dtw traffic on mizar 2 arrival are routinely routed near or through the established drop zone at 3TE airport. While yip traffic is on our dtw frequency (118.95) dtw arrs are on a different frequency and may not be aware of our skydiving activities. Our skydiving aircraft (3 C182's) are routinely climbing and descending within 5 mi of 3TE airport, while yip arrs are routed directly through our climb and descent areas.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A SKYDIVER C182 HAS A NEAR MISS WITH A DC9 MAKING A STAR ARR TO DTW, MI.
Narrative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
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.