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A PA12 has an near midair collision with 2 F18's while discussing the san class B penetration with myf controller, 8 mi north of mzb, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 441568 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199906 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : mzb.vortac |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1480 msl bound upper : 1700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : myf.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Piper Single Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | arrival : vfr enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Hornet (F-18) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 441568 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : mode c other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On check-in with myf tower at the golf course, myf tower reported our mode C indicated 1700 ft MSL. The class B airspace begins at 1500 ft MSL. Our altimeter indicated 1480 ft MSL at the time the myf tower controller said he showed us at 1700 ft MSL. We descended to 1400 ft MSL indicated and he then reported us at 1400 ft MSL. 2 F18's passed in front and approximately 300 ft above us. They were in sight and no evasive action was required.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA12 HAS AN NMAC WITH 2 F18'S WHILE DISCUSSING THE SAN CLASS B PENETRATION WITH MYF CTLR, 8 MI N OF MZB, CA.
Narrative: ON CHK-IN WITH MYF TWR AT THE GOLF COURSE, MYF TWR RPTED OUR MODE C INDICATED 1700 FT MSL. THE CLASS B AIRSPACE BEGINS AT 1500 FT MSL. OUR ALTIMETER INDICATED 1480 FT MSL AT THE TIME THE MYF TWR CTLR SAID HE SHOWED US AT 1700 FT MSL. WE DSNDED TO 1400 FT MSL INDICATED AND HE THEN RPTED US AT 1400 FT MSL. 2 F18'S PASSED IN FRONT AND APPROX 300 FT ABOVE US. THEY WERE IN SIGHT AND NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS REQUIRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.