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Attributes | |
ACN | 442041 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem.airport |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 442041 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
After being vectored off an established airway due to traffic separation, we were given a clearance to fly a heading started the following way: 'fly heading 080 degrees, vector to intercept the airway.' we understood this to mean fly the heading until you are cleared to intercept the airway. After maintaining the heading and flying through the course, the controller said 'are you still looking for the airway out there?' we were given another heading and told to join the airway. I feel the control rushed improper terminology when he said this is a vector to intercept instead of saying fly the heading and intercept. As pilots, we could have queried the controller sooner and not assumed that he meant what he said.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 CREW TAKES SEVERAL UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS TO FOLLOW ARTCC INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN IN NON STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY NEAR MEM.
Narrative: AFTER BEING VECTORED OFF AN ESTABLISHED AIRWAY DUE TO TFC SEPARATION, WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO FLY A HDG STARTED THE FOLLOWING WAY: 'FLY HDG 080 DEGS, VECTOR TO INTERCEPT THE AIRWAY.' WE UNDERSTOOD THIS TO MEAN FLY THE HDG UNTIL YOU ARE CLRED TO INTERCEPT THE AIRWAY. AFTER MAINTAINING THE HDG AND FLYING THROUGH THE COURSE, THE CTLR SAID 'ARE YOU STILL LOOKING FOR THE AIRWAY OUT THERE?' WE WERE GIVEN ANOTHER HDG AND TOLD TO JOIN THE AIRWAY. I FEEL THE CTL RUSHED IMPROPER TERMINOLOGY WHEN HE SAID THIS IS A VECTOR TO INTERCEPT INSTEAD OF SAYING FLY THE HDG AND INTERCEPT. AS PLTS, WE COULD HAVE QUERIED THE CTLR SOONER AND NOT ASSUMED THAT HE MEANT WHAT HE SAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.