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Attributes | |
ACN | 443163 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zla.artcc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 443163 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
We began the VOR/DME runway 34 approach to ifp and were subsequently cleared for 'visual approach to ifp' after reporting ifp airport in sight, by ZLA. After descending below approximately 4000 ft MSL and within 10 NM of ifp, we made at least 4 radio calls for a frequency change to tower. Our calls were not answered, even though we could hear center. At approximately 5 NM south of ifp, we changed to tower frequency and reported our position on the extended centerline of runway 34. We were then instructed to enter a right downwind for runway 16. The lack of an ATC handoff by ZLA and our close proximity to ifp created confusion for ATC, however, no traffic conflict occurred that I am aware of, but there was traffic displayed on our TCASII within 4 NM and 500 ft of our aircraft that we elected to steer away from with a slightly diverging course, but still toward the airport. This is not the first incident of this type to occur at this airport and ATC needs to develop a procedure to initialize a more timely handoff of aircraft to the tower to alleviate the confusion that can be created for both pilot and controller!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING BE1900 INTO IFP LOSES RADIO CONTACT WITH ZLA.
Narrative: WE BEGAN THE VOR/DME RWY 34 APCH TO IFP AND WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED FOR 'VISUAL APCH TO IFP' AFTER RPTING IFP ARPT IN SIGHT, BY ZLA. AFTER DSNDING BELOW APPROX 4000 FT MSL AND WITHIN 10 NM OF IFP, WE MADE AT LEAST 4 RADIO CALLS FOR A FREQ CHANGE TO TWR. OUR CALLS WERE NOT ANSWERED, EVEN THOUGH WE COULD HEAR CTR. AT APPROX 5 NM S OF IFP, WE CHANGED TO TWR FREQ AND RPTED OUR POS ON THE EXTENDED CTRLINE OF RWY 34. WE WERE THEN INSTRUCTED TO ENTER A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 16. THE LACK OF AN ATC HDOF BY ZLA AND OUR CLOSE PROX TO IFP CREATED CONFUSION FOR ATC, HOWEVER, NO TFC CONFLICT OCCURRED THAT I AM AWARE OF, BUT THERE WAS TFC DISPLAYED ON OUR TCASII WITHIN 4 NM AND 500 FT OF OUR ACFT THAT WE ELECTED TO STEER AWAY FROM WITH A SLIGHTLY DIVERGING COURSE, BUT STILL TOWARD THE ARPT. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST INCIDENT OF THIS TYPE TO OCCUR AT THIS ARPT AND ATC NEEDS TO DEVELOP A PROC TO INITIALIZE A MORE TIMELY HDOF OF ACFT TO THE TWR TO ALLEVIATE THE CONFUSION THAT CAN BE CREATED FOR BOTH PLT AND CTLR!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.