B727 flight crew member flies in excess of rules and safety out of regard for his threatened job.

Attributes
ACN	443253
Time
Date	199907
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bos.airport
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : clt.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : parked
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	443253
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	other other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

After 6 strenuous weeks of flying, I was called out for this trip. The beginning of duty time changed 4 times. The trip was scheduled for 15 hours 45 mins under domestic supplemental rules. We checked in at XA00Z, took a commercial flight from mia at XB15Z, arrived in bos at XE41Z, then waited there until XG30Z for our aircraft to arrive. When I took possession of the aircraft I advised my dispatcher we may not continue the trip to the final destination (bos-mci-lax) due to the delay of our aircraft out of boston and that we would exceed the 16 hours maximum duty and also advised him the crew was fatigued. Arriving into mci, I spoke several times to my chief pilot. He pretty much threatened me with my job (although he didn't use those words). We kept on going to lax arriving at XQ00Z block in time, thus making it 16 hours from check-in (start of duty) to block-in. Our guidelines say to add 30 mins after block-in for debriefing, thus making it 16 hours 30 mins duty. I am not exactly sure we violated FARS, if we did, I apologize. I hope I don't get violated or fined, but if I do, understand it would still be cheaper than losing my job.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B727 FLC MEMBER FLIES IN EXCESS OF RULES AND SAFETY OUT OF REGARD FOR HIS THREATENED JOB.

Narrative: AFTER 6 STRENUOUS WKS OF FLYING, I WAS CALLED OUT FOR THIS TRIP. THE BEGINNING OF DUTY TIME CHANGED 4 TIMES. THE TRIP WAS SCHEDULED FOR 15 HRS 45 MINS UNDER DOMESTIC SUPPLEMENTAL RULES. WE CHKED IN AT XA00Z, TOOK A COMMERCIAL FLT FROM MIA AT XB15Z, ARRIVED IN BOS AT XE41Z, THEN WAITED THERE UNTIL XG30Z FOR OUR ACFT TO ARRIVE. WHEN I TOOK POSSESSION OF THE ACFT I ADVISED MY DISPATCHER WE MAY NOT CONTINUE THE TRIP TO THE FINAL DEST (BOS-MCI-LAX) DUE TO THE DELAY OF OUR ACFT OUT OF BOSTON AND THAT WE WOULD EXCEED THE 16 HRS MAX DUTY AND ALSO ADVISED HIM THE CREW WAS FATIGUED. ARRIVING INTO MCI, I SPOKE SEVERAL TIMES TO MY CHIEF PLT. HE PRETTY MUCH THREATENED ME WITH MY JOB (ALTHOUGH HE DIDN'T USE THOSE WORDS). WE KEPT ON GOING TO LAX ARRIVING AT XQ00Z BLOCK IN TIME, THUS MAKING IT 16 HRS FROM CHK-IN (START OF DUTY) TO BLOCK-IN. OUR GUIDELINES SAY TO ADD 30 MINS AFTER BLOCK-IN FOR DEBRIEFING, THUS MAKING IT 16 HRS 30 MINS DUTY. I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WE VIOLATED FARS, IF WE DID, I APOLOGIZE. I HOPE I DON'T GET VIOLATED OR FINED, BUT IF I DO, UNDERSTAND IT WOULD STILL BE CHEAPER THAN LOSING MY JOB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.