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Attributes | |
ACN | 443951 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Stratotanker 135 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 12 |
ASRS Report | 443951 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : supervisor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Cessna was doing pattern work. A KC35 (aircraft Y) heavy completed an approach to runway 17 and departed. Cessna reported the heavy in sight and was told to maintain visual and given wake turbulence cautionary. Supervisor questioned the amount of separation between aircraft. He was told that visual was being used. He continued to question the separation and told me I needed 3 mins. He then questioned whether I was going to do anything. Cessna was over threshold on approach, so I waited until the aircraft (X) had landed and then told him to cancel takeoff and hold. Far 7110.65 3-9-764 states that the 3 min interval is not required when aircraft is continually visual. This situation created extra stress on myself and made for an unsafe situation with the cessna on the runway and canceling his takeoff. I feel the supervisor not knowing the rules or how to apply them created a potential hazard.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SUPVR CHALLENGED LCL CTLR'S SEPARATION CRITERIA BTWN C152 AND A KC35.
Narrative: CESSNA WAS DOING PATTERN WORK. A KC35 (ACFT Y) HVY COMPLETED AN APCH TO RWY 17 AND DEPARTED. CESSNA RPTED THE HVY IN SIGHT AND WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL AND GIVEN WAKE TURB CAUTIONARY. SUPVR QUESTIONED THE AMOUNT OF SEPARATION BTWN ACFT. HE WAS TOLD THAT VISUAL WAS BEING USED. HE CONTINUED TO QUESTION THE SEPARATION AND TOLD ME I NEEDED 3 MINS. HE THEN QUESTIONED WHETHER I WAS GOING TO DO ANYTHING. CESSNA WAS OVER THRESHOLD ON APCH, SO I WAITED UNTIL THE ACFT (X) HAD LANDED AND THEN TOLD HIM TO CANCEL TKOF AND HOLD. FAR 7110.65 3-9-764 STATES THAT THE 3 MIN INTERVAL IS NOT REQUIRED WHEN ACFT IS CONTINUALLY VISUAL. THIS SIT CREATED EXTRA STRESS ON MYSELF AND MADE FOR AN UNSAFE SIT WITH THE CESSNA ON THE RWY AND CANCELING HIS TKOF. I FEEL THE SUPVR NOT KNOWING THE RULES OR HOW TO APPLY THEM CREATED A POTENTIAL HAZARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.