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Attributes | |
ACN | 444984 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 444984 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Company |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : lga.airport |
Narrative:
When ground control (ATC) was called for taxi from spot X they seemed surprised we were at spot X. Nothing was said and clearance to taxi was given and followed uneventfully. Local procedures required 3 calls to 3 different frequencys for pushback clearance. Clearance was given to crew but ground control seemed surprised we were at spot X. Suggest local procedures be simplified and written in a less confusing way to avoid surprising ground control. Local procedures (air carrier procedures) have pushback procedure on 'departure page' and should be on ramp operations page. Spots X and Y are ramp disconnect spots on taxiway M but other pages must be referenced to obtain this information. Best solution: give control of spots X and Y to ramp control (air carrier) since taxiway M is seldom if ever used for anything but pushback and starts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CAPT HAS PUSHBACK SUGGESTION FOR COMPANY TAILORED PAGE AT LGA.
Narrative: WHEN GND CTL (ATC) WAS CALLED FOR TAXI FROM SPOT X THEY SEEMED SURPRISED WE WERE AT SPOT X. NOTHING WAS SAID AND CLRNC TO TAXI WAS GIVEN AND FOLLOWED UNEVENTFULLY. LCL PROCS REQUIRED 3 CALLS TO 3 DIFFERENT FREQS FOR PUSHBACK CLRNC. CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO CREW BUT GND CTL SEEMED SURPRISED WE WERE AT SPOT X. SUGGEST LCL PROCS BE SIMPLIFIED AND WRITTEN IN A LESS CONFUSING WAY TO AVOID SURPRISING GND CTL. LCL PROCS (ACR PROCS) HAVE PUSHBACK PROC ON 'DEP PAGE' AND SHOULD BE ON RAMP OPS PAGE. SPOTS X AND Y ARE RAMP DISCONNECT SPOTS ON TXWY M BUT OTHER PAGES MUST BE REFED TO OBTAIN THIS INFO. BEST SOLUTION: GIVE CTL OF SPOTS X AND Y TO RAMP CTL (ACR) SINCE TXWY M IS SELDOM IF EVER USED FOR ANYTHING BUT PUSHBACK AND STARTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.