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Attributes | |
ACN | 445560 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lgc.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 445560 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
It appears we were inadvertently out of contact with ATC for a period of approximately 10-20 mins. Due to either flight crew missing frequency changeover or ATC forgetting to change us, we were inadvertently off frequency. The period of non-contact was extended due to back to back lavatory breaks by first the captain and then the first officer for approximately 10 mins total. Captain finally became aware of situation and reestablished contact on ZJX. Surprisingly, we received no 'come-up on frequency XXX.X' from ATC through dispatch over ACARS. This was an excellent learning experience in better crew coordination especially during back-to-back lavatory visits by captain and first officer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC DOES NOT RECEIVE TIMELY FREQ CHANGE FROM ZTL.
Narrative: IT APPEARS WE WERE INADVERTENTLY OUT OF CONTACT WITH ATC FOR A PERIOD OF APPROX 10-20 MINS. DUE TO EITHER FLC MISSING FREQ CHANGEOVER OR ATC FORGETTING TO CHANGE US, WE WERE INADVERTENTLY OFF FREQ. THE PERIOD OF NON-CONTACT WAS EXTENDED DUE TO BACK TO BACK LAVATORY BREAKS BY FIRST THE CAPT AND THEN THE FO FOR APPROX 10 MINS TOTAL. CAPT FINALLY BECAME AWARE OF SIT AND REESTABLISHED CONTACT ON ZJX. SURPRISINGLY, WE RECEIVED NO 'COME-UP ON FREQ XXX.X' FROM ATC THROUGH DISPATCH OVER ACARS. THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT LEARNING EXPERIENCE IN BETTER CREW COORD ESPECIALLY DURING BACK-TO-BACK LAVATORY VISITS BY CAPT AND FO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.